Wyatt Earp Posted November 8, 2011 Share Who assembled the bike for you? or did you do it yourself?What would assembly have to do with a frame breaking the way this one did ?This kind of thing will happen more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted November 8, 2011 Share Looks like a fold up bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted November 8, 2011 Share When is it an "aftermarket" frame? When it is not branded or branded with a name we don't know? There are thousands (okay plenty) of manufacturers that we've never heard off. It's easy to put up a website with photos and specs and the frames will look like great bargains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKvoodoo Posted November 8, 2011 Share Anybody can make even an aluminium frame look like that if you don't know how to ride.So 29"Man, Even if you had a Tungsten bike and you land front wheel first off a bridge, It's going to break, Just glad it's not one of mine. By the way did you drop your lipstick in the fall ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted November 8, 2011 Share - I have to chuckle, just because there's no branding or as Andre says "branding we know" everyone jumps on the "its rubbish" bandwagon. I wonder on what testing you base this assumption.? A photo means little if anything, I have seen pics of well known brands looking as bad or worse, what can I deduce from that? Nothing.! Unless you have taken the frame to a laboratory and had the tensile strength of the material tested and verified, and then compared it to a variety of tabulated strengths of "brands" your "deduction the material lacks a serious element of strength" is simply your opinion, it has no basis in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Posted November 8, 2011 Share - I have to chuckle, just because there's no branding or as Andre says "branding we know" everyone jumps on the "its rubbish" bandwagon. I wonder on what testing you base this assumption.? A photo means little if anything, I have seen pics of well known brands looking as bad or worse, what can I deduce from that? Nothing.! Unless you have taken the frame to a laboratory and had the tensile strength of the material tested and verified, and then compared it to a variety of tabulated strengths of "brands" your "deduction the material lacks a serious element of strength" is simply your opinion, it has no basis in fact. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKvoodoo Posted November 8, 2011 Share Absolutely, what's more is that all the Chinese plants work to ISO and Euro standards these days where the must have the proper testing done. If they don't, they close. People stop being so naive. I'm really sorry that some people have paid R14 000 extra on a carbon frame for a name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceres Posted November 8, 2011 Share I have never heard of any Chinese plant working to any standard. If they did all of them would close. Â "Made in China" ie: "Buy at own Risk" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKvoodoo Posted November 8, 2011 Share where have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gongmech Posted November 8, 2011 Share er..made in China doesnt necessarily mean bad quality. Some of the factories in China have really stringint quality control. Â Of course the problem comes in when you have to choose between the good manufacturers and the bad. Like buying food. Organic stuff in SA deosnt mean it's really organic. It just means it conforms to some of the standards to be able to label it organic. Â just my 2c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted November 8, 2011 Share Absolutely, what's more is that all the Chinese plants work to ISO and Euro standards these days where the must have the proper testing done. If they don't, they close. People stop being so naive. I'm really sorry that some people have paid R14 000 extra on a carbon frame for a name. So you have one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Posted November 8, 2011 Share I have never heard of any Chinese plant working to any standard. If they did all of them would close.  "Made in China" ie: "Buy at own Risk" Not true , I’m in a company that does large format pumps ( I can move all the water out of a Olympic pool in a few secs ) and one of the best products we have is out of china, they have one the best factory/production facilities I have ever been into make the porsche factory look backwards, as well as providing the best backup ever . so not all companies there are " at own risk " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li Mu Bai Posted November 8, 2011 Share - I have to chuckle, just because there's no branding or as Andre says "branding we know" everyone jumps on the "its rubbish" bandwagon. I wonder on what testing you base this assumption.? A photo means little if anything, I have seen pics of well known brands looking as bad or worse, what can I deduce from that? Nothing.! Unless you have taken the frame to a laboratory and had the tensile strength of the material tested and verified, and then compared it to a variety of tabulated strengths of "brands" your "deduction the material lacks a serious element of strength" is simply your opinion, it has no basis in fact. I concur, having seen several Specialized Carbon frames in pieces at Sani2C, big money doesnt always buy you lasting quality, especially in mountain biking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted November 8, 2011 Share Absolutely, what's more is that all the Chinese plants work to ISO and Euro standards these days where the must have the proper testing done. If they don't, they close. People stop being so naive. I'm really sorry that some people have paid R14 000 extra on a carbon frame for a name. No that is not true.Not all goods,frames,equipment complies with CE or DIN/ISO standards. You get that which does and that which does not.There will def be those cheaper that dont comply with norms and standards comparable to say Giant,Spaz,Niner etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li Mu Bai Posted November 8, 2011 Share I have never heard of any Chinese plant working to any standard. If they did all of them would close. Â "Made in China" ie: "Buy at own Risk"Â what nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKvoodoo Posted November 8, 2011 Share The people who don't deal with these companies, won't know. To them the truth is what the pimple face techie told them in the bike work shop. I have to laugh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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