V12man Posted November 18, 2015 Share Hi Guys I'm going off the grid and the Simonelli is too power hungry so I am looking at alternatives. Our drink of choice is cappuccinos. ( 8+ a day) My second in command is usually a Bialetti and a handheld milk frother, but the Bialetti is kind of a hassle to clean every time. Any other recommendations? A small lever machine that can froth milk - quick to heat up, and not too power hungry. On reflection - possibly a bean to cup machine? they are pretty power efficient, especially on standby - although the quality of capp will reduce, it should still be drinkable. Edited November 18, 2015 by V12man SimpleDom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spez247 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Just saw this on another forum: Jura F50 coffee machine in excellent condition. Just been serviced by agents. This machine is like new - made approx. 370 cups (to give you an indication they typically make 10,000 cups plus without any issue). It has a large water tank, big bean hopper (around 200g), large grinds tray etc. so you don't need to add water / beans / clean tray too often like the smaller machines. No box or manual - just the machine. New filter just installed. These were around R15k new. Selling price is R7500. Located in Woodmead, JHB. http://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,49503.0.htmlThat's a steal!Just checked my F50 @ work. Its done 3880 cups, and its only been in to Jura twice. Once, it was operator induced....I also make Red Cappucino's through it, which Jura don't recommend, but one a day doesn't seem to bother it at all.Great machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted November 18, 2015 Share A small lever machine that can froth milk - quick to heat up, and not too power hungry. On reflection - possibly a bean to cup machine? they are pretty power efficient, especially on standby - although the quality of capp will reduce, it should still be drinkable. A lever machine is the answer but they are quite thirsty in terms of draw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted November 18, 2015 Share A lever machine is the answer but they are quite thirsty in terms of draw... True - but not compared to a 2 group machine..... I suppose that one of the small thermoblock only machines would be most economical in "real" espresso machines - Ascaso have a couple of those I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted November 18, 2015 Share True - but not compared to a 2 group machine..... I suppose that one of the small thermoblock only machines would be most economical in "real" espresso machines - Ascaso have a couple of those I think. Yeah compared to a 2 group sure, but I reckon that Pavoni uses as much as my Grimac ha ha... Isomac make those nice little machines as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted November 18, 2015 Share Yeah compared to a 2 group sure, but I reckon that Pavoni uses as much as my Grimac ha ha... Isomac make those nice little machines as wellThe Pavoni is still missing a bit... any chance of a drop off soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henningvr Posted November 18, 2015 Share Thanks, I'll PM you for their details. Got it for R4K after much haggling It's a really good machine. Made by the same Swiss company that makes Jura and the high end Bosch, Siemens, AEG, Krups machines.They have a rather interesting history in South Africa and, as a "brand" (more correctly a "Logo") they are only sold here in SA. They're imported and supported by a good bunch of guys in Midrand although your unit is an older model. PM me if you need their details.May I ask what the sale price was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAGecko Posted November 18, 2015 Share Thanks, I'll PM you for their details. Got it for R4K after much haggling R4000.00 You're a bloody good haggler! Great price for that machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henningvr Posted November 18, 2015 Share I got lucky, and I usually don't haggle much. Maybe they just wanted to get rid of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyTrailRider Posted November 18, 2015 Share Okay, so I have it narrowed down to this puppy: https://za.jura.com/en/professional/machines/IMPRESSA-XS9-Classic-EU-13664 Going to have a look (and taste) next week and will then make the call. It's ridiculous, but over the next 36 months this change will likely translate into a R40k/year cost saving with servicing factored in, even though it costs R22k! Nuts. V12man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted November 18, 2015 Share The Pavoni is still missing a bit... any chance of a drop off soon? Yeah I can try tomorrow, will you be in the office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted November 18, 2015 Share Yeah I can try tomorrow, will you be in the office?From mid morning yes (11 or so) - but the receptionist will be in from 7:30 Thanks the nerd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleDom Posted November 18, 2015 Share Yeah I can try tomorrow, will you be in the office?While you're dropping stuff, you can swing by my place with a lever whenever you're free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted November 18, 2015 Share While you're dropping stuff, you can swing by my place with a lever whenever you're free. Ha ha ha good one! SimpleDom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted November 18, 2015 Share Okay, so I have it narrowed down to this puppy: https://za.jura.com/en/professional/machines/IMPRESSA-XS9-Classic-EU-13664 Going to have a look (and taste) next week and will then make the call. It's ridiculous, but over the next 36 months this change will likely translate into a R40k/year cost saving with servicing factored in, even though it costs R22k! Nuts.You could also consider these as machines - also great quality http://www.importalia.co.za/large_office_carimali.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewie911 Posted November 18, 2015 Share A small lever machine that can froth milk - quick to heat up, and not too power hungry. On reflection - possibly a bean to cup machine? they are pretty power efficient, especially on standby - although the quality of capp will reduce, it should still be drinkable. Was also thinking of a small lever machine, but can't find any on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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