The Ghost Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 "Only 25 people see your silly little tweet, you're out of your league, hope your lawyers will back your game" Direct message from USN CEO. From what I have heard and seen of USN products in the past, there is no way I will use one, ever - that includes Biogen.But seeing the way this is being handles actually makes me angry, how pathetic and juvenile are we?Perhaps he is so defensive because of past claims...
Face Plant Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 One Huge issue that USN has obviously missed is the Position that SAIDS has on the use of supplements in sport in school going youth. which is fully backed by SASCOC Ive attached a copy for those that are interestedSupplement- SAIDS.pdf The Ghost and JarradVZ 2
Shebeen Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 "U get Baby formula 2 supplement babies diet, u get choc Nesquik- yummy. U get Usn Kids Nutri Shake 'combo of both'- brilliant" @martindreyer3 This is the Martin Dreyer that just won the Freedom Challenge 2012, a sportsman I really respect. So there are certainly mixed reactions to this product.Martin is one of the good guys, but he's personally sponsored by USN as well as his academy of paddling legends from the depths of the umsindusi valley. It makes it hard for him to be impartial. I don't have a problem with this sort of product per se, it's nothing new and sits alongside milo, nesquik, game and other sort of so called kids energy stuff. I do have a problem when it becomes marketed as important for kids' sport. The post about 7 year old kids taking their rugby way too seriously is the thin end of the wedge. disclaimer: I'll also merrily bang the drum that USN really (ocked up things for chilliboy ralapele and bjorn basson when they got their mix wrong but chose to avoid the limelight there, they lost the moral high ground for me there no matter how long ago it was.
Bat-ass Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Kids should roll "paniagua" in my opionion!!If you havent read the book yet... it means "Bread and Water"Oh, an maybe a good old bacon and eggd for breakfast... that'll work!
fabes Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) disclaimer: I'll also merrily bang the drum that USN really (ocked up things for chilliboy ralapele and bjorn basson when they got their mix wrong but chose to avoid the limelight there, they lost the moral high ground for me there no matter how long ago it was.When they got tested was it not because of a product called Jack 3d? I am not sure if USN had anything to do with that. Edit: you are right it was apparently USN or the Boks energy drink Supplier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiliboy_Ralepelle Edited October 19, 2012 by fabes
Tumbleweed Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Wasn't there a thread about supplements for kids here a while back? Can't remember the name…
fabes Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Wasn't there a thread about supplements for kids here a while back? Can't remember the name…Yeah but he got abused and never returned. He was asking advice first i think like Oom Tice
Azonic Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) Crazy product. We give our baby daughter CrecheGuard, basically a multi vitamin. That's it. Basically just a peace of mind type thing to help against all the other mostly sick babies. However, vitamins don't keep you healthy, avoiding someone coughing in your face keeps you healthy. So the CrecheGuard is probably not even needed, but that's beside my point now. Young kids, like what this product is targetting, need nothing more than good nutritious food for great development. We make our daughter's own "Purity", own vegetables, etc, at home. Except for the S26 Gold formula she's on, everything is "natural". So that being said - if todlers just need good decent food for good development and nutrition............ ............why do adults need and supplements to beign with? Did I just shoot a hole straight through USN's business? My wife trains on Oros, I mostly ride on Energade, but mostly water. Sugar and salt, that's all it boils down to. If someone thinks than a certain product magically gives them awesome legs for some event - say hello to a hyped up label (that you fell for) on the package and your ability to perform fueled by the placebo effect. Its well known that sports supplements, protein powders, etc, is one of the biggest money making rackets out there. "Time and time again we have pointed out the numerous supplement scams that are out in the marketplace. And believe me, we only scratch the surface. There are far more worthless supplements out there than we have time or energy to spend on. One very ugly truth about the sport nutrition business is that it’s filled with crooks, con men, hucksters, and just plain bad people. It’s a loosely regulated industry and rarely are the bad guys separated from the good. This makes it very easy for the consumer to get fleeced. On top of that, very few supplements actually have real science supporting their effectiveness. Now you certainly couldn’t tell that by the ads in the magazines. Some of the ads are written to appear so scientific that they make real science journals look like children’s books. The problem here is the scientific claims are virtually all pure fantasy. Completely made up. And believe it or not, the more outrageous the claims, the more utterly impossible the promises these companies make about their products, the more they sell. Seriously, the supplements that turn out to be the biggest scams were at one time or another the biggest sellers. Go figure. I often ask myself, “Are consumers really that gullible?” Apparently they are. In this industry, the more you lie, fabricate and exaggerate, the more product you are going to sell. Now to make things worse, because this industry is actually dominated by crooks, when one company puts out a worthless product with bogus claims and it sells well, other equally pathetic companies will knock off the worthless product and make even more outrageous claims. It feeds on itself. Every ad is literally more outrageous than the one before it. And there is little if any truth to the majority of them. The magazines join right in. You see, the magazines make money off of the number of ads they sell. That’s why you see 200 hundred pages of ads in each fitness magazine every month. I don’t know of any other market segment where the magazines even come close to amount of ads in every magazine as in the fitness industry." Edited October 19, 2012 by Azonic
flymango Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) Unfortunately our whole food chain on planet earth is so stressed that a so-called normal, balanced diet doesn't offer the same nutritional value it did 50 years ago. With all the crap that protein livestock are fed to promote faster growth (e.g. free range chicken vs battery chicken) and genetic modifications to crops, it no wonder that supplementation has become an integral part of our diet. And that's clearly an opportunity with kids' supplementation as well. And it's no different from 30 years ago - I was given Disney-branded vitamin tablets as a kid. But I don't agree with the marketing angle - the same way a kid that needs a cellphone doesn't need a smartphone. Of much greater concern to me is the recent study on Roundup Ready GM maize!! If I'm not mistaken, a lot (if not most?) of our maize crop in SA is GM Roundup Ready. This is very, very scary stuff. And why are kids physically entering adolescence so much younger than before? Why are more and more younger people getting cancer? Why is motor neuron disease becoming more prevalent? Food for thought. Pardon the pun. http://www.thegrocer.../232603.article Edited October 19, 2012 by flymango M L, Azonic, Danger Dassie and 1 other 4
Lamber Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Why is this a debate? I don't have kids, but you can **** me sideways the day i let my kids near this isht! And threatening a concerned parent with legal action after a tweet? Insecure much? Basically saying keep your mouth shut about our sihtty product or we'll sue! Ever heard of Coke sueing anyone saying it's "bad for you"? Nope, 'cause they have confidence in their product. USN supplements for 5 year olds?????? Still dumbstruck! umhlanga101, gummibear, Patensie and 3 others 6
'Dale Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Thinking that using this kinda stuff makes us no better than Lance-gate and the rest of them. Supplements to enhance performance... True....
Lamber Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Little online battle going on between USN founder and a sports doc, mtb'er. Check it out. Are these mentions or DMs?
gummibear Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Albé USN @AlbeGeldenhuys I just made the mistake to give someone more exposure than he deserves...my lesson for the day Fortunately there are other products to use.I won't be buying USN again
P.A.K. Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I'd just like to know if the guys at USN let their kids use it slowpoke 1
fabes Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Guys i know the box only says ages 5 and up...but is this not just a recommended age. My son is 16months old
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