alsoran Posted October 30, 2012 Share 52 years old. Male. 75kg. My max is 195. Well that's what I see just before my vision starts to cloud. Seems the formula does not work for everyone but it is better than the 220 less your age rubbish Um I think yours is actually 180.59210 - (52/2) - (0.02667 * (75*2.2)) + 1 could be wrong mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMartin Posted October 30, 2012 Share Um I think yours is actually 180.59210 - (52/2) - (0.02667 * (75*2.2)) + 1 could be wrong mind. That might be what the formula indicates but the fact is I can hit 195 in reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsoran Posted October 30, 2012 Share That might be what the formula indicates but the fact is I can hit 195 in reality Aaah misunderstood your post. Mine is higher in reality than the formulae as well but not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr SingleTrack Posted October 30, 2012 Share Hi, Over the past i have on a hard ride maintained a Heart Rate of 165 - 180 over a 2 hour period.With rides like this my average would be just below 170 and max at like 190. A few weeks ago i was getting over flu and took an EASY ride,my HR was elevated the whole time(i do understand thi is because i was sick), but spiked all the way to 213. I am 28 and in good physical shape. The question i actually wanted an answer to was,how high is a very high HR and could i then use this as my max HR for training.as I understand it, you are still sick/ill if your heart rate is elivated well above your normal range for a given efort level. You should stop your training and wait another day or 2 untill you have fully recover. Training with said heart rate will put strain on your heart and could result in heart damage and heart attack. That being said, I also think your max reading sounds dodge. You should be able to see where the reading went wrong if you look at a scatter graph of your recorded heart rate. Sorry for my spelling, I am replying on my phone and my spelling sux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChUkKy Posted October 30, 2012 Share as I understand it, you are still sick/ill if your heart rate is elivated well above your normal range for a given efort level. You should stop your training and wait another day or 2 untill you have fully recover. Training with said heart rate will put strain on your heart and could result in heart damage and heart attack. That being said, I also think your max reading sounds dodge. You should be able to see where the reading went wrong if you look at a scatter graph of your recorded heart rate. Sorry for my spelling, I am replying on my phone and my spelling sux http://1.1.1.2/bmi/cdn.bikehub.co.za/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png Drink more beer, makes you spell betterAlso increases the heartrate due to love of the brew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr SingleTrack Posted October 30, 2012 Share Drink more beer, makes you spell betterAlso increases the heartrate due to love of the brewnow this sounds like a great plan! I'll be doing lactate threshold sprints in the pub tonight! ChUkKy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunariaan Posted October 30, 2012 Share everyone is differentGet yourself tested properlyI don't really use HR for cycling , but in running my max would be round 190 and avg round 168, running at round 4min/kmpushing it on a 3 or 5 and running at 3;30min/km it can sometimes spike to over 200 with my max 211i use a garmin and find although it gives you every kilo you did and the max , you normally will find a higher max HR if you look at your total max HR over the distanceyou will sometimes spike in a race , even if it is for 5sec and that will show as your max , so even if its for 15 second it will show , rather look at your max HR per kilo and not at the one for the total raceMy HR will be a bit higher if i had flu or if i am tired and even if you are training on a empty stomach and the body feels a bit week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton1 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Sure that may be accurate for you. Considering this chaps MHR is 185ish, anything above that is likely to affect his heart. Once you go above your maximum heart rate, your heart does not have enough time between beats (the diastolic period) to refill adequately in preparation for the next heart beat (systole). This results in lower cardiac output and hence less output to your brain and hence you would pass out. Now considering his MHR (185ish), 213 seems a little outrageous, no? Hence, I suggest that it is most likely interference. Surely this makes little sense? How can you talk about his maximum heart rate on one hand and then talk about him going over it? Surely if he did go over it then that presumed maximum is not his maximum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ84 Posted October 31, 2012 Share I am not sure of the full reasons why my HR spiked to 213bpm,As i said i had been sick and i only did 10km's as i stopped riding and my average for that was 184bpm. I was only in the 200's for less than a min,remember i felt terrible so i took a breather. My normal rides i constantly get to 187 - 189 and i dont feel like im going to vommit just taking strain up the climb. Think the formula with me getting a 193 must be very close.If im healthy and my rate hits 213 again i will go straight to do a test and see. Thanks for all the helpful responses. TopFuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopFuel Posted October 31, 2012 Share Surely this makes little sense? How can you talk about his maximum heart rate on one hand and then talk about him going over it? Surely if he did go over it then that presumed maximum is not his maximum? Actually it makes perfect sense. Your maximum heart rate is the limit at which the diastolic period allows for adequate filling for the following systole. Cardiac output = heart rate x stroke volume (ml's ejected from ventricles). Now as one can see, increasing either would cause an increase in cardiac output, agreed? However, at heart rates above MHR, the stroke volume actually goes down with increasing HR, thus reducing cardiac output. With this in mind, does my above explanation now make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Drew Posted October 31, 2012 Share I would have asked to adjust her strap for her cause of the eratic HR showing on my unit. The thing is... she was busy riding TransBaviaans, so an adjustment would have been difficult. Her partner also decided that this was a good means of keeping her 'in check'..... so whenever he rode close enough, her HR went up trying to ride away from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agteros Posted October 31, 2012 Share Actually it makes perfect sense. Your maximum heart rate is the limit at which the diastolic period allows for adequate filling for the following systole. Cardiac output = heart rate x stroke volume (ml's ejected from ventricles). Now as one can see, increasing either would cause an increase in cardiac output, agreed? However, at heart rates above MHR, the stroke volume actually goes down with increasing HR, thus reducing cardiac output. With this in mind, does my above explanation now make sense?No, but that reads like "BBB" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopFuel Posted October 31, 2012 Share Blood brain barrier? I'm confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agteros Posted October 31, 2012 Share Blood brain barrier? I'm confused BS Baffles Brains... TopFuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracs Posted November 1, 2012 Share Actually it makes perfect sense. Your maximum heart rate is the limit at which the diastolic period allows for adequate filling for the following systole. Cardiac output = heart rate x stroke volume (ml's ejected from ventricles). Now as one can see, increasing either would cause an increase in cardiac output, agreed? However, at heart rates above MHR, the stroke volume actually goes down with increasing HR, thus reducing cardiac output. With this in mind, does my above explanation now make sense?No it doesnt. max is max. If you go over that either you had the wrong max or your equipment is not accurate (dried contacts, interferenace etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer4Recovery Posted November 1, 2012 Share On my Suunto M5, after exercise, it gives a suggestion "It takes XX hours to full recovery" What does this mean? The manual says the following : "After each exercise, the device shows how long it takes for you to fully recoverand when you are ready for exercising on full intensity within your personal fitness level" Is this then the time it will take the heart to fully recover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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