David George gets 2 years

['Dale]

Don't touch the stuff

 

10 years?????Chill yourself.

 

It was tongue in cheek, Kranswurm.

 

He broke a rule. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Iwan Kemp]

There seem to be many people in glass houses replying to this topic. Yeah the guy's done wrong, fessed up and is prepared to take the pain. His sentance is neither his responsibility nor his fault. His cycling life is finished and I think that we seem to overlook the consequences of that to someone who made his living through the sport.

 

He didn't confess - he was busted!. There's a big difference between the two. Yeah all he's worked and dreamed for is now in pieces, but he had a CHOICE. He exercised this out of his own free will and for that he has to staan Pa. This guy stood there, with an illegal substance and will-fully injected it into his body. For that, he should be punished and the punishment should fit the crime. In choosing the illegal, cop-out route he also destroyed his partner's year and everything he worked and trained for and tarnished the sport even further. Mtb'ing has been clean and post LA everyone's been saying how different mtb'ing and road racing is. Clearly not. Thanks to free will.

 

I'm not trying to kick him while he's down - everyone makes mistakes. But you and I both know that part of life is taking the rap for it. No one would bekicking him in the first place if he was doing it clean. OR; if he came out and confessed before he got busted.

 

Shame on him for spending all those hours in the saddle with a guy next to him who's probably closer to him than most guy's own brothers, then going behind his back and sell him out.

 

Shame on him for not spilling the beans on the cancer behind what he did. No one else involved? Yeah right. You want respect? Earn it. The hard way. When you stuff up, staan Pa for it. Not half way. Not only just enough. Not Staan Pa as part of a PR exercise. And certainly not by protecting those tarnishing our sport. Staan Pa.

Edited December 5, 2012 by The Crow

[HappyMartin]

I agree with the punishment from CSA but not sure about this not being a criminal thing. Loads of cyclists and people attached to teams have been bundled off to holding cells in France for doping products.

 

I clearly remember seeing a number of formerly arrogant tough talking skinny guys in Lycra in floods of years while being hauled off to jail.

[Kranswurm]

He didn't confess - he was busted!. There's a big difference between the two. Yeah all he's worked and dreamed for is now in pieces, but he had a CHOICE. He exercised this out of his own free will and for that he has to staan Pa. This guy stood there, with an illegal substance and will-fully injected it into his body. For that, he should be punished and the punishment should fit the crime. In choosing the illegal, cop-out route he also destroyed his partner's year and everything he worked and trained for and tarnished the sport even further. Mtb'ing has been clean and post LA everyone's been saying how different mtb'ing and road racing is. Clearly not. Thanks to free will.

 

I'm not trying to kick him while he's down - everyone makes mistakes. But you and I both know that part of life is taking the rap for it. No one would bekicking him in the first place if he was doing it clean. OR; if he came out and confessed before he got busted.

 

Shame on him for spending all those hours in the saddle with a guy next to him who's probably closer to him than most guy's own brothers, then going behind his back and sell him out.

 

Shame on him for not spilling the beans on the cancer behind what he did. No one else involved? Yeah right. You want respect? Earn it. The hard way. When you stuff up, staan Pa for it. Not half way. Not only just enough. Not Staan Pa as part of a PR exercise. And certainly not by protecting those tarnishing our sport. Staan Pa.

 

Yeah right....

[andydude]

Why give them a 2nd chance?

 

I'll try... we all make mistakes, and by mistakes I mean not by accident, but by taking the wrong decisions. With your decisions come consequences and normally the severity of the wrong decision dictates the degree of consequence. Having said that, most of us have gotten away with wrong decisions and without punishment. That's part of growing up! If you stop making mistakes, you stop living.

 

That's what I meant about us being so judgemental. It reminds me of Mathew which said, "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

[Iwan Kemp]

Yeah right....

 

Yeah, kinda with you on this one.

[JGR]

I'll try... we all make mistakes, and by mistakes I mean not by accident, but by taking the wrong decisions. With your decisions come consequences and normally the severity of the wrong decision dictates the degree of consequence. Having said that, most of us have gotten away with wrong decisions and without punishment. That's part of growing up! If you stop making mistakes, you stop living.

 

That's what I meant about us being so judgemental. It reminds me of Mathew which said, "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

well said ...

['Dale]

I'll try... we all make mistakes, and by mistakes I mean not by accident, but by taking the wrong decisions. With your decisions come consequences and normally the severity of the wrong decision dictates the degree of consequence. Having said that, most of us have gotten away with wrong decisions and without punishment. That's part of growing up! If you stop making mistakes, you stop living.

 

That's what I meant about us being so judgemental. It reminds me of Mathew which said, "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

 

Yebo.

 

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[HeyYou]

My sentence

 

10 years + some contribution to the development of cycling at Songo + 2 years pro bono work with CSA to help them move forward.

 

Aren't CSA in the financial dwang already?

[HeyYou]

I think it would be a pretty safe bet that DG is not the only bad boy in SA cycling. Hope any others get caught also and get their 2 years worth.

[Potato]

I'll try... we all make mistakes, and by mistakes I mean not by accident, but by taking the wrong decisions. With your decisions come consequences and normally the severity of the wrong decision dictates the degree of consequence. Having said that, most of us have gotten away with wrong decisions and without punishment. That's part of growing up! If you stop making mistakes, you stop living.

 

That's what I meant about us being so judgemental. It reminds me of Mathew which said, "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

 

Well said and I agree with you but if we going to get our sport clean, one of the things we need to do is to be stricter so athletes learn that it's play fair or you can't play at all. I'm also not saying that the maximum penalty should always be used but I feel it should be available as an option.

[TNT1]

I say life ban !

 

if you worked at a normal company ( as most of us do ) and stole money from the company instead of working for it the normal way you would lose your job ( if caught) .

 

so if you cycle for a living and take drugs to make it easier to earn your living why be treated any differently .

 

Well, he did lose his job, didn't he?

 

So, the ban (however long) is added to the punishment you suggest...

[Jaco-fiets]

He didn't confess - he was busted!. There's a big difference between the two. Yeah all he's worked and dreamed for is now in pieces, but he had a CHOICE. He exercised this out of his own free will and for that he has to staan Pa. This guy stood there, with an illegal substance and will-fully injected it into his body. For that, he should be punished and the punishment should fit the crime. In choosing the illegal, cop-out route he also destroyed his partner's year and everything he worked and trained for and tarnished the sport even further. Mtb'ing has been clean and post LA everyone's been saying how different mtb'ing and road racing is. Clearly not. Thanks to free will.

 

I'm not trying to kick him while he's down - everyone makes mistakes. But you and I both know that part of life is taking the rap for it. No one would bekicking him in the first place if he was doing it clean. OR; if he came out and confessed before he got busted.

 

Shame on him for spending all those hours in the saddle with a guy next to him who's probably closer to him than most guy's own brothers, then going behind his back and sell him out.

 

Shame on him for not spilling the beans on the cancer behind what he did. No one else involved? Yeah right. You want respect? Earn it. The hard way. When you stuff up, staan Pa for it. Not half way. Not only just enough. Not Staan Pa as part of a PR exercise. And certainly not by protecting those tarnishing our sport. Staan Pa.

 

I agree that doping was a choice he made and that he should "staan Pa". I reckon he is doing it. He got the maximum ban which unfortunately is 2 years and we all agree it should be more but he still received max punishment acc to the system.

 

Personally i put a busted doper and a confessed doper in the same camp. Confessed dopers should not get sympathy punishments.

 

I don't see MTB pro seen any cleaner than the Rd scene. I reckon there are just as many dopers in mtbing.

 

I honestly don't think DG has a "ring" of people involved in him doping. What do you want him to spill? Point out fellow riders who he think is doping? You might not like who he will be pointing out. I am actually surprized that he is not doing just that

Edited December 5, 2012 by Jaco-fiets

[pista]

Ridiculous - He should be banned for life!

+1

[Goodbadugly]

DG will be turning 37 in 3 months. So a 2 year ban might just sink him as a professional cyclist anyway.

['Dale]

DG will be turning 37 in 3 months. So a 2 year ban might just sink him as a professional cyclist anyway.

 

Was wondering what age he was...