hayleyearth Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 'looks' flexy actually, were they removed one bit of rear triangle to make space (i presume) to install the shock and access the adjusters. That AND how many bikes do we actually know of that has both the rear shock mountings 'behind' the BB line... I cant really see the bottom linkage between front and rear triangle design from the pics so can't determine the range of movement really... It seem like that shock is mounted linkage to linkage... Which is also odd actually... One might just get a 'I'm being kicked in my butt' feeling Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
Capricorn Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) That AND how many bikes do we actually know of that has both the rear shock mountings 'behind' the BB line... I cant really see the bottom linkage between front and rear triangle design from the pics so can't determine the range of movement really... It seem like that shock is mounted linkage to linkage... Which is also odd actually... One might just get a 'I'm being kicked in my butt' feeling scott genius with its pull-shock comes to mind. Not aesthetically pleasing.But i dont think it matters where the shock is located. It's essentially a mirror image of the arrangements with shocks that are aligned with the seat tube, but in front of the BB. Giant, Transition etc. The rocker arm is of course modified to suit the shock being at the back.Wondering if they haven't sacrificed the shorter chainstay option for 'being different'. Edited October 1, 2015 by Capricorn Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 scott genius with its pull-shock comes to mind. Not aesthetically pleasing.But i dont think it matters where the shock is located. It's essentially a mirror image of shocks that aligned with the seat tube, but in front of the BB. Giant, Transition etcWondering if they haven't sacrificed the shorter chainstay option for 'being different'..yeah, it's about the linkages. Not clean by any means, but if you consider that the Santa cruz rear triangles also only have one forward spar...
Capricorn Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) .yeah, it's about the linkages. Not clean by any means, but if you consider that the Santa cruz rear triangles also only have one forward spar... true,but the shock linkage where the seat stays link to is one solid piece effectively joining the seat stays at the pivot point. With the propain, there's no such arrangement (gap between pivot points), making it possible for the shock linkage to twist, hence it 'looking' flexy. nice view of the SC linkage on one of their bikes: http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/products/12389/photos/11894/s1600_2_detail4.jpg?1371414294 Edited October 1, 2015 by Capricorn
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Really like the look of this. http://m.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Prototype-Carbon-Enduro-Bike-from-the-UK-Arbr-Saker,9483/Prototype-Carbon-Enduro-Bike-from-the-UK-Arbr-Saker,98821/sspomer,2?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=spotlight
KingTJ Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 yeah, sure it wont reach the frame at full travel... just looks sketchy... Ja.... Mine (and after much research seeing many other withs the same problem) at max psi they bottom out pretty easily.. until you add the volume reducers... Might just be my 90kg self, but took a lot of fiddling to get it right for me.Im having the same problem...i almost feel too heavy for the shock and im at 280psi...shock feels smooth but my fox never bottomed out like this
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) true,but the shock linkage where the seat stays link to is one solid piece effectively joining the seat stays at the pivot point. With the propain, there's no such arrangement (gap between pivot points), making it possible for the shock linkage to twist, hence it 'looking' flexy. nice view of the SC linkage on one of their bikes: http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/products/12389/photos/11894/s1600_2_detail4.jpg?1371414294Ah, yes. I see what you're saying. But on the pain there's also a bridge forward of the tyre, which the mudguard fits on to. Just how much that braces the triangle , and how fleet those "spars" are at the pivot point, remains to be seen. But yes. Now that I see that, it does look a bit flexy. I'm sure they thought of that though Edited October 1, 2015 by Myles Mayhew Capricorn 1
Raydek Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Im having the same problem...i almost feel too heavy for the shock and im at 280psi...shock feels smooth but my fox never bottomed out like thisYeah. With volume reducers (read electrical tape) installed, I am running at 310psi, weigh 90kg and have yet to bottom out and in fact use more than 85% travel. Very happy with this. Edited October 2, 2015 by Raydek
Guest notmyname Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 Arbr Saker prototype...My eyes. My eyes are burning. Sidewinder., BaltazarMarques and Skott5 3
Skott5 Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 Arbr Saker prototype... Kill it !! With Fire !!!
Hairy Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 Arbr Saker prototype...and I was setting up to post a couple more pics http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1224/normal_EWSFinale_55A5849.jpg?1443734718/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1225/normal_EWSFinale_55A5852.jpg?1443734765/http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1226/normal_EWSFinale_55A5858.jpg?1443734836/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1220/normal_arbr2.jpg?1443715498/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1221/normal_arbr3.jpg?1443715546/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1222/normal_arbr5.jpg?1443715581/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1227/normal_EWSFinale_55A5855.jpg?1443734912/ Steven Knoetze (sk27) and popcorn_skollie 2
Hairy Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 http://mbaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/IMGL7952oldframe750.jpg
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) and I was setting up to post a couple more pics http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1224/normal_EWSFinale_55A5849.jpg?1443734718/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1225/normal_EWSFinale_55A5852.jpg?1443734765/http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1226/normal_EWSFinale_55A5858.jpg?1443734836/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1220/normal_arbr2.jpg?1443715498/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1221/normal_arbr3.jpg?1443715546/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1222/normal_arbr5.jpg?1443715581/ http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1227/normal_EWSFinale_55A5855.jpg?1443734912/Looks like it might be running some sort of pull linkage, like the Evil does - single pivot moving rearward, pulling on a triangular rocker jobbie which rotates and compresses the shock attached to the 3rd corner of the link. Would be cool to see inside the confines of the frame to see if I'm right. EDIT: Just like this kind gent on VitalMTB has illustrated it. http://i.imgur.com/MOjO3C4.jpg Edited October 2, 2015 by Myles Mayhew KingTJ 1
nigelhicks Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) the wife is already hinting for an upgrade of her Juliana Furtado to the new Roubion which is beast ... A proper Ladies Enduro Bike Edited October 5, 2015 by nigelhicks Hairy, Bizkit031, BSG and 2 others 5
popcorn_skollie Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 http://www.sicklines.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Alchemy-Bicycles-Arktos-07.jpghttp://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/alchemy2-1024x682.jpghttp://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/captions/1101/full_DSC8587.jpg?1442432129/http://4aa548860e9729d7a4e5-b1d917dcc4c05c586acbfdb262f100b4.r4.cf2.rackcdn.com/af1b15bd280994ffdbac1d1214a8f0c4-e23daa4520adbd38a19d3d8634a30b5e.jpghttp://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2015/09/Alchemy-Arktos-front-3-4.jpghttp://www.sicklines.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Alchemy-Bicycles-Arktos-04.jpghttp://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/alchemy-arktos-full-suspension-mountain-bike-sine-suspension11.jpghttp://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2015/09/Alchemy-Arktos-rear-triangle.jpg Hairy, Steven Knoetze (sk27) and Bizkit031 3
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