Martin PJ Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Any questions? https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/53523-amashova-crash/ Genuine Pinarello damaged in 2009 Amashova crash.
javadude Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Any questions? Yes, what happened? Can you prove that its a Chinarello (teehehehehe, as if you actually get an Italian Pinarello). Jokes aside, what's the story and what's your point?
Martin PJ Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Yes, what happened? Can you prove that its a Chinarello (teehehehehe, as if you actually get an Italian Pinarello). Jokes aside, what's the story and what's your point? Hi Javadude, the story about the picture is in my link above your post. Cheers. shaper 1
JA-Q001 Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Well, I know its a real Pinarello, I was behind that crash. It was Shaun Wards Bike after he took a tumble over the finishing mats, I posted that photo to show 2 things. 1. With the correct impact, you can break even the most expensive top quality ones. 2. If you do your research, you will find just as many pics of broken brand bikes, as you will find of chinarellos, depends what you are looking for. I own a Chinese bike myself, I have given it a beating on the road a few times, it has not failed me once, but when I bought it, I wasn't expecting R50k's value for R6000, I knew that the beauty layer may not be perfect or the holes not exact, but I worked around that and got a stunning bike. If you are buying, do your research and see what success stories there are and what problems were had. Disclaimer, I do not support the sale or ownership of fake bikes, if you think you look cool because you ride a bike looking like a R100k bike, then you are missing the plot and rather take up Golfing. Meezo, YUMEYA, Meerkat82 and 4 others 7
shaper Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) No matter what make, even real Pinarellos, there is always a chance of a carbon frame cracking and breaking,.. as nicely pointed out in the link. Chinarellos are no different, and as some would like to let you believe they are not built with inferior quality and are tested, there are many articles, write ups and tests done of chinarellos to back up that they are safe to ride. DYOR Here just one article of a persons real experience on building and riding a chinarello http://www.reddit.co...tsoinexpensive/ Read the comments post towards the end where there is a comment from a guy who sells and installs the testing equipment in the chinarello factories. Edited May 20, 2014 by shaper BogusOne 1
rouxtjie Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Exactly one year since I have had my fongkong...not a day's worth of kuk. Just saying http://www.carbonality.com/gaea.html Edited May 20, 2014 by rouxtjie
NotSoBigBen Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Exactly one year since I have had my fongkong...not a day's worth of kuk. Just saying http://www.carbonality.com/gaea.html But you obviously ride with some 'finesse' compared to other rugby player types we know, no names mentioned rouxtjie and Meezo 2
Oracle BoB Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Well, I know its a real Pinarello, I was behind that crash. It was Shaun Wards Bike after he took a tumble over the finishing mats, I posted that photo to show 2 things. 1. With the correct impact, you can break even the most expensive top quality ones. 2. If you do your research, you will find just as many pics of broken brand bikes, as you will find of chinarellos, depends what you are looking for. I own a Chinese bike myself, I have given it a beating on the road a few times, it has not failed me once, but when I bought it, I wasn't expecting R50k's value for R6000, I knew that the beauty layer may not be perfect or the holes not exact, but I worked around that and got a stunning bike. If you are buying, do your research and see what success stories there are and what problems were had. Disclaimer, I do not support the sale or ownership of fake bikes, if you think you look cool because you ride a bike looking like a R100k bike, then you are missing the plot and rather take up Golfing. I agree, I do not condone buying a fake bike and passing it off as the real thing, thus mine is a complete custom spray job, unique in every way BogusOne and Meezo 2
rouxtjie Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) But you obviously ride with some 'finesse' compared to other rugby player types we know, no names mentioned hahahaha you can break stainless with enough force....those rugga buggers are hard on their equipment. Edited May 20, 2014 by rouxtjie NotSoBigBen 1
Meezo Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 But you obviously ride with some 'finesse' compared to other rugby player types we know, no names mentioned
Meezo Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 hahahaha you can break stainless with enough force....those rugga buggers are hard on their equipment. mnr rouxtjie, long time... hows is the chiner going?
rouxtjie Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 mnr rouxtjie, long time... hows is the chiner going?Like the clappers meezo...I love my gaea....unbranded and all for the stealth look. Light enough, strong enough, affordable enough...still checking all the boxes Meezo and BogusOne 2
BogusOne Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Unfortunately haters will hate and sceptics will always be sceptic. As I said before in this thread I have seen some better build quality on these Chinese frames than what I have seen on brand name frames. And im not talking about the top beauty layer as its called. Im talking about the construction of the frame.... And as I said before don't just go out and buy the first and cheapest frame you can as you surely will burn your fingers... there is horror stories on the net of $100 chinarello frames that's mainly built with fibreglass with just a beauty layer of carbon. SO DO YOUR HOMEWORK and buy from the reputable Chinese suppliers as has been discussed in this very thread. Just as most of the sceptics always say don't knock the brand unless you have owned one so to the same sceptics don't knock the Chinese imports unless you have actually ridden one.Just as a note I am not condoning the purchase of fake or counterfeit products not selling them as genuine when its copies. im merely stating that to someone who wants to ride carbon but don't want to spend a gazillion randellas on a frame or complete build the Chinese frames will always be a viable option Some interesting reading.... Apologies if its been posted before but still good. Follow some of the links in the article as well.... http://inrng.com/2012/02/who-made-your-bike/ http://www.canadiancyclist.com/races12/taiwan/parttwo/index.htm Giant factory.... hmmm but Scott's being boxed.... http://inrng.com/medias/images/giantfactory.png Also from the Giant factory are these leaving in boxes http://www.canadiancyclist.com/races12/taiwan/parttwo/images/giant_DSC0363.jpg At the end of the day almost all frames gets made in the east and that's due to many contributing factors like cost, turn around times etc..... BUT do your homework on where you buy from. JA-Q001, anibal50, LOOK695 and 4 others 7
rouxtjie Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Awesome post Bogus....really sums it up for me. Meezo 1
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