NotSoBigBen Posted July 9, 2013 Share Mark Cavendish @MarkCavendish 4m Can all sprint experts on twitter go & try flicking their bike right at 65kph without leaning your body left to balance & come back to me. T-Bob, r0adrunner and Wyatt Earp 3 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igknot Posted July 9, 2013 Share The lady doth protest too much Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted July 9, 2013 Share http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/788976585.gif?1373385470 On first viewing I really thought it was deliberate aggression by Cavendish. ITV did several close up replays and actually I don't think it was. Tom looked over to his right and could see Cavendish slightly to his right, Cav swerves to the right to get round Tom. Tom, on the left of the white line start moving into Cav's line...he clearly crosses the white line. Cav braces himself for the imminent crash. Tom comes off worse. Tom's fault. Cav made the right decision. r0adrunner 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted July 9, 2013 Share http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/788976585.gif?1373385470 On first viewing I really thought it was deliberate aggression by Cavendish. ITV did several close up replays and actually I don't think it was. Tom looked over to his right and could see Cavendish slightly to his right, Cav swerves to the right to get round Tom. Tom, on the left of the white line start moving into Cav's line...he clearly crosses the white line. Cav braces himself for the imminent crash. Tom comes off worse. Tom's fault. Cav made the right decision. Good analysis. The scenario was tricky though as the winning line was on this funny lil bend to The Left.Thus, Veelers as lead out man was kinda blocking the Cav, en route to the white chalk. Hope he's okay. Edited July 9, 2013 by ' Dale Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted July 9, 2013 Share http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/788976585.gif?1373385470 On first viewing I really thought it was deliberate aggression by Cavendish. ITV did several close up replays and actually I don't think it was. Tom looked over to his right and could see Cavendish slightly to his right, Cav swerves to the right to get round Tom. Tom, on the left of the white line start moving into Cav's line...he clearly crosses the white line. Cav braces himself for the imminent crash. Tom comes off worse. Tom's fault. Cav made the right decision. I do believe it was not malicious.Bull headed perhaps ,yes. (chasing the wheels of his opponents)Did he have time to think ? he did a hell of a lot better than most seasoned bike riders would do. NotSoBigBen 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzy Posted July 9, 2013 Share What pro in his right mind will do something like that intentional. Cav comes across as a descent guy to me. Really do not think he did it because he doesn't want to loose. Seems like a guy that is alway gracious in defeat. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nochain Posted July 9, 2013 Share http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/788976585.gif?1373385470 On first viewing I really thought it was deliberate aggression by Cavendish. ITV did several close up replays and actually I don't think it was. Tom looked over to his right and could see Cavendish slightly to his right, Cav swerves to the right to get round Tom. Tom, on the left of the white line start moving into Cav's line...he clearly crosses the white line. Cav braces himself for the imminent crash. Tom comes off worse. Tom's fault. Cav made the right decision.100%!!!!!It is very clear when you look at it at speed that Veelers movement at the last moment caused the accident. Cav had to lean into him.The hatters will hate....It is hard to believe that people think someone will put himself at risk at that speed by bumping into another rider on purpose! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev null Posted July 9, 2013 Share Sorry guys, I don't see it that way. Look at how Cav's cycle leans to the left before the incident. That is not trying to prevent an incident, but causing it. In my mind he has always been a twat, albeit a fast one. Edited July 9, 2013 by Moridin Abercrombie, TALUS, Trawsaj and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted July 9, 2013 Share Cycling Direct @CyclingDirectSA 3m RT @TourDeJose: Race commissaires say it was Tom Veelers’ fault (via @willfoth) so no consequences for Cavendish. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted July 9, 2013 Share Well, let's just call him Eileen the Missile from now on.I think he did well, it could have been a lot worse. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted July 9, 2013 Share On first viewing I really thought it was deliberate aggression by Cavendish. ITV did several close up replays and actually I don't think it was. Tom looked over to his right and could see Cavendish slightly to his right, Cav swerves to the right to get round Tom. Tom, on the left of the white line start moving into Cav's line...he clearly crosses the white line. Cav braces himself for the imminent crash. Tom comes off worse. Tom's fault. Cav made the right decision. reading the analysis and looking at the footage it looks totally different now to my first impression... I don't think Cav was to blame Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsam Posted July 9, 2013 Share I do believe it was not malicious.Bull headed perhaps ,yes. (chasing the wheels of his opponents)Did he have time to think ? he did a hell of a lot better than most seasoned bike riders would do. If you watch, the video from the front he definitely nudges Veelers, not cool... yes he was slowed down, but he could have really hurt alot of other riders. Maybe he should stick to his own teams wheel won't have a problem heck where were they..lol Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev null Posted July 9, 2013 Share From the Le Tour website: One of Marcel Kittel's lead-out men, Tom Veelers, looked right, then left to see where his sprinter was and he bumped shoulders with Mark Cavendish and thumped onto the tarmac. How does a lead-out man not know where his sprinter is? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubehunter Posted July 9, 2013 Share Anyone here ever have someone move over a little so that you are going to touch or bump unexpectedly? Did you lean away from it or did you brace yourself for impact and try to be firm so that you can stay upright?? What are the chances you would make sure you do this at 65km\h instinctively if you rode your bike for a living? Personally I'm not a Cav fan, but boy can he ride a bike FAST! Edited July 9, 2013 by Tubehunter nochain 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted July 9, 2013 Share If you watch, the video from the front he definitely nudges Veelers, not cool... yes he was slowed down, but he could have really hurt alot of other riders. Maybe he should stick to his own teams wheel won't have a problem heck where were they..lol I don't believe it's a nudge.It might look that way, but i don't get that impression. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted July 9, 2013 Share Unload and check the TT MACHINES!! Race against the clock tomorrow... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/126062-the-100th-edition-of-the-tour-de-france-chirps-opinions-news-updates/page/133/#findComment-1984984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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