Mackie Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Pinot along with van Garderen have been the biggest disappointments of the entire tour.Agree, had TeeJay in my fantasy team, much was expected from him. BMC need to rebook that team, Cadel must go!
tombeej Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Pinot along with van Garderen have been the biggest disappointments of the entire tour. Unlike Gesink, who has consistently disappointed every year... Lucky Luke. and TALUS 2
Jaco-fiets Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 I nogal like this machine Propel...Wonder that they'll cost here in ZA? http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/files/2013/07/315-659x440.jpg I asked through my local bikeshop for price on the frame. Does not seem to be available here
V12man Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Bucket List, anyone? It was In the 40 things by 40 list... one of the versions anyway - it's a long climb.... hate to have to race up it..
lone one Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Tour Bike Porn: http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/files/2013/07/117-659x440.jpg I am sure this was on display at the Argus Expo this years (in Blue and Black) they were giving indications of +-R100k (with very top end components) and will only be in the country the last quarter of the year
jcza Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Rolling up the Ventoux before the PROs roll through Bucket List, anyone? For sure
GrumpyOldGuy Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Unlike Gesink, who has consistently disappointed every year... I would like to know who this Robert Hesink fella is that the two P's keep mumbling on about.?
KABOUS Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 I do not have time to scroll through the entire thread but has anybody seen power comparisons of the Ventoux stage which the Froominator won compared to the doping era ?I am quite sure the Tour is " cleaner" than before and it should be very interesting to see the ascend time compared to when the biggest doper in history ( L A) went up Ventoux.
Lucky Luke. Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 MONT VENTOUX (last 15.65 km [from St. Esteve], 8.74 %, 1368 m) ----TOP 50 LIST -1. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 48:33 | 2002 -2. Chris Froome _________ GBR | 48:35 | 2013 -3. Andy Schleck _________ LUX | 48.57 | 2009 -4. Alberto Contador _____ ESP | 48:57 | 2009 -5. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 49:00 | 2009 -6. Marco Pantani ________ ITA | 49:01 | 2000 -7. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 49:01 | 2000 -8. Frank Schleck ________ LUX | 49:02 | 2009 -9. Nairo Quintana _______ COL | 49:04 | 2013 10. Roman Kreuziger ______ CZE | 49:05 | 2009 11. Franco Pellizotti ____ ITA | 49:15 | 2009 12. Vincenzo Nibali ______ ITA | 49:17 | 2009 13. Bradley Wiggins ______ GBR | 49:22 | 2009 14. Joseba Beloki ________ ESP | 49:26 | 2000 15. Jan Ullrich __________ GER | 49:30 | 2000 16. Raimondas Rumsas _____ LTU | 49:49 | 2002 17. Roberto Heras ________ ESP | 49:49 | 2000 18. Ivan Basso ___________ ITA | 49:52 | 2002 19. Mikel Nieve __________ ESP | 49:58 | 2013 20. Joaquim Rodriguez ____ ESP | 49:58 | 2013 21. Jurgen van den Broeck_ BEL | 49:58 | 2009 22. Andreaas Klöden ______ GER | 50:01 | 2009 23. Francisco Mancebo ____ ESP | 50:04 | 2002 24. Roman Kreuziger ______ CZE | 50:15 | 2013 25. Alberto Contador _____ ESP | 50:15 | 2013 26. Jakob Fuglsang _______ DEN | 50:18 | 2013 27. Joseba Beloki ________ ESP | 50:18 | 2002 28. Richard Virenque _____ FRA | 50:18 | 2000 29. Nauke Mollema ________ NED | 50:21 | 2013 30. Francisco Mancebo ____ ESP | 50:24 | 2000 31. Laurens Ten Dam ______ NED | 50:28 | 2013 32. Manuel Beltran _______ ESP | 50:30 | 2000 33. Christophe Moreau ____ FRA | 50:32 | 2000 34. Santiago Botero ______ COL | 50:34 | 2000 35. Kurt van de Wouwer ___ BEL | 50:37 | 2000 36. Levi Leipheimer ______ USA | 50:38 | 2002 37. Jean-Christophe Peraud FRA | 50:43 | 2013 38. Christophe Le Mevel __ FRA | 50:45 | 2009 39. Bart de Clercq _______ BEL | 50:47 | 2013 40. Christian Vandevelde__ USA | 50:53 | 2009 41. Jose Azevedo _________ POR | 50:58 | 2002 42. Michael Rogers _______ AUS | 51:01 | 2013 43. Laurent Jalabert _____ FRA | 51:02 | 2000 44. Mikel Astarloza ______ ESP | 51:03 | 2009 45. Alejandro Valverde ___ ESP | 51:07 | 2013 46. Dan Martin ___________ IRL | 51:11 | 2013 47. Daniele Nardello _____ ITA | 51:17 | 2000 48. Richie Porte _________ AUS | 51:24 | 2013 49. Daniel Atienza _______ ESP | 51:27 | 2000 50. Sylvain Calzati ______ FRA | 51:34 | 2009 50. Luis Leon Sanchez ____ ESP | 51:34 | 2009 ___ The record (Dauphine Libere) ___ Iban Mayo ___________ ESP | 45:47 | 2004 ___ The record (Tour de France) ___ Marco Pantani _______ ITA | 46:00 | 1994
jcza Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 The news everyone had been expecting. A positive doping test for the Tour of Turkey winner Mustafa Sayar. Link to follow
KABOUS Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 MONT VENTOUX (last 15.65 km [from St. Esteve], 8.74 %, 1368 m) ----TOP 50 LIST -1. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 48:33 | 2002-2. Chris Froome _________ GBR | 48:35 | 2013-3. Andy Schleck _________ LUX | 48.57 | 2009-4. Alberto Contador _____ ESP | 48:57 | 2009-5. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 49:00 | 2009-6. Marco Pantani ________ ITA | 49:01 | 2000-7. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 49:01 | 2000-8. Frank Schleck ________ LUX | 49:02 | 2009-9. Nairo Quintana _______ COL | 49:04 | 201310. Roman Kreuziger ______ CZE | 49:05 | 2009 11. Franco Pellizotti ____ ITA | 49:15 | 200912. Vincenzo Nibali ______ ITA | 49:17 | 200913. Bradley Wiggins ______ GBR | 49:22 | 200914. Joseba Beloki ________ ESP | 49:26 | 200015. Jan Ullrich __________ GER | 49:30 | 200016. Raimondas Rumsas _____ LTU | 49:49 | 200217. Roberto Heras ________ ESP | 49:49 | 200018. Ivan Basso ___________ ITA | 49:52 | 200219. Mikel Nieve __________ ESP | 49:58 | 201320. Joaquim Rodriguez ____ ESP | 49:58 | 201321. Jurgen van den Broeck_ BEL | 49:58 | 200922. Andreaas Klöden ______ GER | 50:01 | 200923. Francisco Mancebo ____ ESP | 50:04 | 200224. Roman Kreuziger ______ CZE | 50:15 | 201325. Alberto Contador _____ ESP | 50:15 | 201326. Jakob Fuglsang _______ DEN | 50:18 | 201327. Joseba Beloki ________ ESP | 50:18 | 200228. Richard Virenque _____ FRA | 50:18 | 200029. Nauke Mollema ________ NED | 50:21 | 201330. Francisco Mancebo ____ ESP | 50:24 | 2000 31. Laurens Ten Dam ______ NED | 50:28 | 201332. Manuel Beltran _______ ESP | 50:30 | 200033. Christophe Moreau ____ FRA | 50:32 | 200034. Santiago Botero ______ COL | 50:34 | 200035. Kurt van de Wouwer ___ BEL | 50:37 | 200036. Levi Leipheimer ______ USA | 50:38 | 200237. Jean-Christophe Peraud FRA | 50:43 | 201338. Christophe Le Mevel __ FRA | 50:45 | 200939. Bart de Clercq _______ BEL | 50:47 | 201340. Christian Vandevelde__ USA | 50:53 | 2009 41. Jose Azevedo _________ POR | 50:58 | 200242. Michael Rogers _______ AUS | 51:01 | 201343. Laurent Jalabert _____ FRA | 51:02 | 200044. Mikel Astarloza ______ ESP | 51:03 | 200945. Alejandro Valverde ___ ESP | 51:07 | 201346. Dan Martin ___________ IRL | 51:11 | 201347. Daniele Nardello _____ ITA | 51:17 | 200048. Richie Porte _________ AUS | 51:24 | 201349. Daniel Atienza _______ ESP | 51:27 | 200050. Sylvain Calzati ______ FRA | 51:34 | 200950. Luis Leon Sanchez ____ ESP | 51:34 | 2009 ___ The record (Dauphine Libere)___ Iban Mayo ___________ ESP | 45:47 | 2004 ___ The record (Tour de France)___ Marco Pantani _______ ITA | 46:00 | 1994 thank you - amazing how close the times are !
Kranswurm Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 I would like to know who this Robert Hesink fella is that the two P's keep mumbling on about.? That's how the kaas koppe say it GrumpyOldGuy 1
fandacious Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 MONT VENTOUX (last 15.65 km [from St. Esteve], 8.74 %, 1368 m) I posted a similar link (slightly different distance) but it more or less states the same. Froomes time was equal to armstrong/pantani times. Tell me again how clean this tour is?
Vetseun Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 MONT VENTOUX (last 15.65 km [from St. Esteve], 8.74 %, 1368 m) ----TOP 50 LIST -1. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 48:33 | 2002 -2. Chris Froome _________ GBR | 48:35 | 2013 -3. Andy Schleck _________ LUX | 48.57 | 2009 -4. Alberto Contador _____ ESP | 48:57 | 2009 -5. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 49:00 | 2009 -6. Marco Pantani ________ ITA | 49:01 | 2000 -7. Lance Armstrong ______ USA | 49:01 | 2000 -8. Frank Schleck ________ LUX | 49:02 | 2009 -9. Nairo Quintana _______ COL | 49:04 | 2013 10. Roman Kreuziger ______ CZE | 49:05 | 2009 11. Franco Pellizotti ____ ITA | 49:15 | 2009 12. Vincenzo Nibali ______ ITA | 49:17 | 2009 13. Bradley Wiggins ______ GBR | 49:22 | 2009 14. Joseba Beloki ________ ESP | 49:26 | 2000 15. Jan Ullrich __________ GER | 49:30 | 2000 16. Raimondas Rumsas _____ LTU | 49:49 | 2002 17. Roberto Heras ________ ESP | 49:49 | 2000 18. Ivan Basso ___________ ITA | 49:52 | 2002 19. Mikel Nieve __________ ESP | 49:58 | 2013 20. Joaquim Rodriguez ____ ESP | 49:58 | 2013 21. Jurgen van den Broeck_ BEL | 49:58 | 2009 22. Andreaas Klöden ______ GER | 50:01 | 2009 23. Francisco Mancebo ____ ESP | 50:04 | 2002 24. Roman Kreuziger ______ CZE | 50:15 | 2013 25. Alberto Contador _____ ESP | 50:15 | 2013 26. Jakob Fuglsang _______ DEN | 50:18 | 2013 27. Joseba Beloki ________ ESP | 50:18 | 2002 28. Richard Virenque _____ FRA | 50:18 | 2000 29. Nauke Mollema ________ NED | 50:21 | 2013 30. Francisco Mancebo ____ ESP | 50:24 | 2000 31. Laurens Ten Dam ______ NED | 50:28 | 2013 32. Manuel Beltran _______ ESP | 50:30 | 2000 33. Christophe Moreau ____ FRA | 50:32 | 2000 34. Santiago Botero ______ COL | 50:34 | 2000 35. Kurt van de Wouwer ___ BEL | 50:37 | 2000 36. Levi Leipheimer ______ USA | 50:38 | 2002 37. Jean-Christophe Peraud FRA | 50:43 | 2013 38. Christophe Le Mevel __ FRA | 50:45 | 2009 39. Bart de Clercq _______ BEL | 50:47 | 2013 40. Christian Vandevelde__ USA | 50:53 | 2009 41. Jose Azevedo _________ POR | 50:58 | 2002 42. Michael Rogers _______ AUS | 51:01 | 2013 43. Laurent Jalabert _____ FRA | 51:02 | 2000 44. Mikel Astarloza ______ ESP | 51:03 | 2009 45. Alejandro Valverde ___ ESP | 51:07 | 2013 46. Dan Martin ___________ IRL | 51:11 | 2013 47. Daniele Nardello _____ ITA | 51:17 | 2000 48. Richie Porte _________ AUS | 51:24 | 2013 49. Daniel Atienza _______ ESP | 51:27 | 2000 50. Sylvain Calzati ______ FRA | 51:34 | 2009 50. Luis Leon Sanchez ____ ESP | 51:34 | 2009 ___ The record (Dauphine Libere) ___ Iban Mayo ___________ ESP | 45:47 | 2004 ___ The record (Tour de France) ___ Marco Pantani _______ ITA | 46:00 | 1994Froome just two seconds off Armstrongs best time. Armstrong was a doper.... hope the Froome Dawg isnt one.
KABOUS Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Froome just two seconds off Armstrongs best time. Armstrong was a doper.... hope the Froome Dawg isnt one.I would expect this to be the cleanest tour in long time- But who knows ?
Vetseun Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 thank you - amazing how close the times are !Wonder if Andy loaned some of Franks jungle juice in 2009? He dropped like a girl yesterday, poor sod.
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