Tumbleweed Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 Did the taxi turn in front of Burry?Why was the driver arrested in the first place if it wasn't he's fault?Any photos of the accident scene. If there is a fatality, isn't it an automatic arrest. There were many photos posted here of the scene. From what I read at the time, the driver cooperated from the start.
SwissVan Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 If there enough facts and evidence to convict the driver, but the prosecution screwed, then it's a sad day. You can't, however, convict someone on sentiment. Yes yes that's obviousSeems like you cannot convict someone the proper way either which leaves nothing else but sentiment. Lets wait and see where this ends up, but you have to admit it's looking increasingly likely that justice wont be served. Akon 1
Servetus Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 In plain English what does "provisionally taken off the roll" mean... "Provisionally" taken off the roll means that the accused can be charged again at a later stage (e.g. when the evidence is ready as Gummibear said). "Withdrawn" would be when the prosecutor decides in principle not to proceed with the case - that is then the end of the matter and the accused then cannot be charged again later SwissVan 1
Tumbleweed Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) Yes yes that's obviousSeems like you cannot convict someone the proper way either which leaves nothing else but sentiment. Lets wait and see where this ends up, but you have to admit it's looking increasingly likely that justice wont be served. What is justice in this case for you? A conviction? Edited July 2, 2013 by Tumbleweed Christie 1
SwissVan Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 Did the taxi turn in front of Burry?Why was the driver arrested in the first place if it wasn't he's fault?Any photos of the accident scene. From what I recall the taxi turned in front of Burry into a side road, crossing the solid white line to do so. Apparently (not 100% sure about this) the taxi was using the side road to avoid a traffic light further down the road.
bikekid Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 I feel for Cherise and Burrys family The hopefully successful prosecution may have given them some closure which they sadly may not get now
Skott5 Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 Ai, so much of speculation people .. wait for the facts.
Servetus Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 Incidentally, does anyone here have any knowledge or experience of private prosecutions?
rattlesnake Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 What is justice in this case. For you? A conviction?A conviction - YES. This might just make motorists a little more aware of us cyclists on the road, knowing that there are real consequences to killing someone with your car. This is (was ) a golden opportunity to add some meaning to a senseless death - might have saved a few more lives down the line.
BogusOne Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 Cherise just said on the radio the driver hit Burry from the opposite side of the road. Now my question is how can the driver NOT be at fault? Another epic fail from our so called judicial system
SwissVan Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 What is justice in this case. For you? A conviction? The opportunity for the defense and state to argue their case in front of a judge based on evidence as produced by both sides. Justice would be the end decision of the judge based on what has already happened and not what has not happened....
Tumbleweed Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 A conviction - YES. This might just make motorists a little more aware of us cyclists on the road, knowing that there are real consequences to killing someone with your car. This is (was ) a golden opportunity to add some meaning to a senseless death - might have saved a few more lives down the line.Once again, this is based on assumption. Do you know what evidence the prosecution has? If he is guilty, I would like nothing more than to see him convicted. It's just not that simple.
Joe Low Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 Lets wait and see where this ends up, but you have to admit it's looking increasingly likely that justice wont be served.40 people die on the roads here every day so its pretty obvious that the enforcement and justice systems are not working. It's no surprise, then, that Burry's case also suffers from this. I think that his people have a much better chance of getting somewhere with this case, than virtually anyone else because of his high profile. The outcry has started immediately so we'll see what the system can produce under pressure. For the 1,000s of others, well I dont know, seems like there's nothing & that includes the recreational cyclists, regularly culled.
Tumbleweed Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) The opportunity for the defense and state to argue their case in front of a judge based on evidence as produced by both sides. Justice would be the end decision of the judge based on what has already happened and not what has not happened.... What if there simply isn't enough evidence to proceed? Edited July 2, 2013 by Tumbleweed
Sepia Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 From what I recall the taxi turned in front of Burry into a side road, crossing the solid white line to do so. Apparently (not 100% sure about this) the taxi was using the side road to avoid a traffic light further down the road.Herersay.........
Sepia Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 What if there simply isn't enough evidence to proceed?No evidence (messed up docket) = no case, simple.History repeats itself.
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