sluiper Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Does it help to query your seeding? Has anyone's seeding actually been changed in the past? I dropped from D to J, because I didn't do any PPA races during the year and they have this arbitrary way of adjusting your seeding based on number of months over 6. Unless you did other non-Ractetec timed races and have proof of it, I don't think they'll adjust your group easily.
ibruegge Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Does it help to query your seeding? Has anyone's seeding actually been changed in the past? I dropped from D to J, because I didn't do any PPA races during the year and they have this arbitrary way of adjusting your seeding based on number of months over 6.6:56, same seeding as last year, not a single race done this year. Argus is the best training for Argus.
SurferChild Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Racing Licence rider with a seeding index of 13 and I got C.... aaarrrgggg
Organic Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 because I didn't do any PPA races during the year and they have this arbitrary way of adjusting your seeding based on I think this is the reason for many of the seeding drops. It looks like your seeding index for an event gains a point for each month over 6. I don't recall them applying penalties to the previous year's Argus last year - only to races older than that.
GaryvdM Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Repost from other thread: If you want to see what results were used for your seeding, goto: seeding.cycletour.co.za/findme.aspx?ss=2&eid=2014. You can also submit a query from there.
dee_biker Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I phoned their Office just to stir it up a bit. They say that if you did the Argus or any seeding race longer than 6 months ago, it will be penalized by 1 seeding point per month, so Argus last year would be 6 points... ARRGGHH To my knowledge this was not the case in previous years Argus's??? But this guy I spoke to was adamant that it was indeed done like that in previous years... Anyway, we'll take it as it comes.
Tomik Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I'm also a bit peeved (dropped from C to F, no seeding races, 3:06 in 2013) but on the bright side it looks like a number of strong riders will be in groups C - F (including the licensed ones, not sure how they got there!). If we ALL work reasonably hard, a sub 3 should theoretically still be possible...unless there are bad bottlenecks due to the shorter gaps. Started in C last year - no bottlenecks, although some gravel riding was needed on Smits!
DJR Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Seeding for a cycle race like the Argus is a bit like democracy. It is far from perfect, but it is still a lot better than any other option. Pure Savage, TALUS and geomark 3
leaboy Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Group E for me, chuffed with that considering I started in DD last year Wannabe 1
samson99 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 How can they penalize your argus time from last year if they use all the seeding events from 2013 to seed 2014 argus? Makes absolutely no sense. Muppets
Meezo Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 They've incorporated PPA seeding methods obviously
Patchelicious Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I'm also a bit peeved (dropped from C to F, no seeding races, 3:06 in 2013) but on the bright side it looks like a number of strong riders will be in groups C - F (including the licensed ones, not sure how they got there!). If we ALL work reasonably hard, a sub 3 should theoretically still be possible...unless there are bad bottlenecks due to the shorter gaps. Started in C last year - no bottlenecks, although some gravel riding was needed on Smits! There will be bottle necks, oooh jirre I'm glad I'm not going to do this. Going up Smits with 5bunches bottle necking..... LEFFFTTTTT........ Crash
HOEKVLAG Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I understand that they penalise older races, but that kind of negates doing any races early in the year as it is too short before this year's Argus and you get penalised when they consider them for next year's Argus. Doesn't that compromise the organisers advertising their events as seeding events for the Argus?
Wannabe Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I understand that they penalise older races, but that kind of negates doing any races early in the year as it is too short before this year's Argus and you get penalised when they consider them for next year's Argus. Doesn't that compromise the organisers advertising their events as seeding events for the Argus? Exactly. How can you then use one year's "Seeding Events" only the next year?
Wannabe Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Ag well, much ado about nothing. I'm happy / satisfied with my seeding.
Aedon Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Following an accident, not been able to train the last month and a half and its my 22nd.So will be a Sunday ride for me.
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