LazyTrailRider Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Droppers really make you more nimble in normal twisty singletrack where you have to flick between trees or tight bends, not just for the white-knuckled stuff. So if you have it you really tend to use it more and more. I hear you, but I'm not fully convinced... Having learnt to ride technical stuff way back before droppers existed, one of the key skills in an MTBers arsenal (IMHO, I have to add) is being able to throw a bike around using the seat. I may be completely wrong about this, but my feeling has always been that a low setup makes this much more difficult. The above is probably why I very seldom dropped things down when competing in DH races over the years, only doing so when stuff got *really* steep and a high seatpost became dangerous. Minnaar and Peat don't ride theirs high for no reason. Yes, I know we don't have close to their skills, but I think there's something to be said for that kind of setup.
Skylark Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Myself and Porqui are both using the Giant post. Very happy with it. Just keep the cables housings clean and dry like any derailleur. For the money you can't go wrong, and the new version can be made to route internally. I have heard if anything goes fong kong on the Giant posts there is zero user serviceable parts in them and they have to go back to giant or alternatively chucked in the bin?Anyone know how much Giant charges for a rebuild on them and how long it takes?
Skylark Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I hear you, but I'm not fully convinced... Having learnt to ride technical stuff way back before droppers existed, one of the key skills in an MTBers arsenal (IMHO, I have to add) is being able to throw a bike around using the seat. I may be completely wrong about this, but my feeling has always been that a low setup makes this much more difficult. The above is probably why I very seldom dropped things down when competing in DH races over the years, only doing so when stuff got *really* steep and a high seatpost became dangerous. Minnaar and Peat don't ride theirs high for no reason. Yes, I know we don't have close to their skills, but I think there's something to be said for that kind of setup. Charging twisty or rough single track with a Seatpost at optimal height for efficient pedal stroke is not fun at all.That's why a dropper post is nice, so you can drop it down to a more useable height for those conditions, not slam it to the Seatpost clamp, still plenty height to grip your saddle with your legs. Any way relative to your average trails rider the DH guys seat is a fair bit lower, but you are right though, I was quite surprised at how high the top end DH guys run their Seatposts relative to how gnarly the stuff is they ride.
Pipsqueak Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I hear you, but I'm not fully convinced... Having learnt to ride technical stuff way back before droppers existed, one of the key skills in an MTBers arsenal (IMHO, I have to add) is being able to throw a bike around using the seat. I may be completely wrong about this, but my feeling has always been that a low setup makes this much more difficult. The above is probably why I very seldom dropped things down when competing in DH races over the years, only doing so when stuff got *really* steep and a high seatpost became dangerous. Minnaar and Peat don't ride theirs high for no reason. Yes, I know we don't have close to their skills, but I think there's something to be said for that kind of setup.I hear you too. I know a guy who's a really good rider, technically, and he bought and sold his dropper - didn't like it. He still goes plenty fast. When you get old you need more and more help, even if its just stuff to fiddle with. But for me, a slightly lower post lets me waggle that bike around a lot more.
LazyTrailRider Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Charging twisty or rough single track with a Seatpost at optimal height for efficient pedal stroke is not fun at all. It's possibly quite simply that I've never run my seat at the crazy XC height (I raced XC for many years also) that many "professional setup" guidelines would prescribe. My seat's at a pretty good compromise point, and I've gotten used to it over the years. I reckon it's all about what you're adapted to and comfortable with
Skylark Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 It's possibly quite simply that I've never run my seat at the crazy XC height (I raced XC for many years also) that many "professional setup" guidelines would prescribe. My seat's at a pretty good compromise point, and I've gotten used to it over the years. I reckon it's all about what you're adapted to and comfortable with My seat is also well below optimal XC racer height but many mtbers do run the ergo fit style seat height which gives almost zero room to manoeuvre, they could definitely benefit from a dropper. Even with my seat as low as it is I'd still smaak a dropper post, nothing better than having a seat ridiculously low especially if you want to bunny hop stuff or really charge the crazy steep stuff hard. Only thing holding me back is the price and having the headache of another expensive thing to service and fiddle with.
DubbelBuys Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Looking for reasonable prices on KS droppers go look at leadout cycles online? Has anyone bought from leadout before?
BogusOne Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 A cheap alternative http://dirtmountainbike.com/featured/rsp-plummet-the-cheapest-dropper-seatpost-weve-ever-seen-and-it-works.html RSP Plummet http://cdn1.coresites.mpora.com/dirt_new/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/BWP2116-620x412.jpg
SimpleDom Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 My LEV turned into a Pogo stick after 3 months. Went for a ride in the cold, and boom.... Suspension Post. #sadface.
RockCoach Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 My LEV turned into a Pogo stick after 3 months. Went for a ride in the cold, and boom.... Suspension Post. #sadface. Everything okay with the cable? If anything causes too much friction like a bend or fold in the cable or housing, damaged or misaligned ferrule or even dirt - it can cause the actuation to remain activated.
SimpleDom Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 Everything okay with the cable? If anything causes too much friction like a bend or fold in the cable or housing, damaged or misaligned ferrule or even dirt - it can cause the actuation to remain activated. Happens even after I remove the cable from the post....
OnTheRicky Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I am intrigued by these dropper posts I have a carbon frame and my shifter lines run into the head tube and down the top tube. They seem to fit precisely into these holes. I was wondering if it would be able to make the necessary adjustments to run the Reverb Stealth line through the frame and into the correct position for the internals. Anyone with experience or suggestions on this?
Bizkit031 Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I am intrigued by these dropper posts I have a carbon frame and my shifter lines run into the head tube and down the top tube. They seem to fit precisely into these holes. I was wondering if it would be able to make the necessary adjustments to run the Reverb Stealth line through the frame and into the correct position for the internals. Anyone with experience or suggestions on this? if there is no space now with what you have going through there it ain't gonna work,get the one on the outside of the frame then.Changes your riding.
kosmonooit Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Its great to see how the pros can shift their weight back w/o a dropper, but not in my skill set. Also having seat lower makes a dismount much easier on a descent when I run out of skills and/or confidence. Its very tricky to stop & dismount without cartwheeling because you cant get your weight back.
Matchstix Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 A droppers biggest advantage in my eyes is high speed technical cornering where you want to get your weight centre and low on the bike, while leaning the bike more than your body. Although I do not believe it is necessary for one to be fast on technical but it makes it a bit easier.
Ysterperd Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I am intrigued by these dropper posts I have a carbon frame and my shifter lines run into the head tube and down the top tube. They seem to fit precisely into these holes. I was wondering if it would be able to make the necessary adjustments to run the Reverb Stealth line through the frame and into the correct position for the internals. Anyone with experience or suggestions on this? I believe some of the newer bike frames have made provision for the internal routing of the dropper cables - Santa Cruz Tallboy comes to mind
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