Hennie VR Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Zatec: you can see you seeding index here: results.racetec.co.za/findme.aspx?ss=1 . It's ppa branding, but I'm quite certain that they use the same data for non ppa, racetec races. I'm sure if you compare you index to others in your group, I'm sure you will find they are similar. If you index is lower than you think it should be, get an understanding of the maths, and I'm sure you will figure out a way to improve it (generally ride faster in races, but I've also some other tactics, like ride in smaller races.) Thanks for this. Never knew where to look it up. I see I have some SLOW mtb rides in Cape Town pulling my seeding down (man did I suffer on those ). Two more races and that should be sorted.
Agteros Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Zatec: you can see you seeding index here: results.racetec.co.za/findme.aspx?ss=1 . It's ppa branding, but I'm quite certain that they use the same data for non ppa, racetec races. I'm sure if you compare you index to others in your group, I'm sure you will find they are similar. If you index is lower than you think it should be, get an understanding of the maths, and I'm sure you will figure out a way to improve it (generally ride faster in races, but I've also some other tactics, like ride in smaller races.)In the past seeding for races upcountry used to use your single best seeding over the past year without using any beta or anything like it. The official line was that they use the avg of your best three, however the reality was 1 event. Hence the rush for the flat races. PPA penalise the flat races with a lower beta (difficulty score), which does/did not happen upcountry. What is happening for upcountry races (seeding wise) at the moment is way less clear than mud. Edited February 13, 2014 by agteros
Agteros Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) In the past, for smaller events, (non 94.7) you could get into the A bunch with a sub 20 seeding. You do not belong there with a seesing like that as you will have a torrid race being shelled from every bunch overtaking you. Hence why I am falling back to B! Edited February 13, 2014 by agteros rouxtjie 1
TALUS Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 There is no benefit for anybody in a huge bunch. I will happily drop back if I knew the smaller bunch will all pull their weight. Having a huge bunch with a low starting position means nothing if 80% is just sucking wheel. My most enjoyable rides were when I dropped back and pulled hard in the front. Best training too. I am trying to put together such a group for this race. Drop from A and start strong from further back. All take pulls, nobody sprint at the end.
MaxUmis Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 There is no benefit for anybody in a huge bunch. I will happily drop back if I knew the smaller bunch will all pull their weight. Having a huge bunch with a low starting position means nothing if 80% is just sucking wheel. My most enjoyable rides were when I dropped back and pulled hard in the front. Best training too. I am trying to put together such a group for this race. Drop from A and start strong from further back. All take pulls, nobody sprint at the end.haha! with the finish at R4S? hahaha! Dubber88 1
jcza Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 There is no benefit for anybody in a huge bunch. I will happily drop back if I knew the smaller bunch will all pull their weight. Having a huge bunch with a low starting position means nothing if 80% is just sucking wheel. My most enjoyable rides were when I dropped back and pulled hard in the front. Best training too. I am trying to put together such a group for this race. Drop from A and start strong from further back. All take pulls, nobody sprint at the end. .........and all sprint!!
TALUS Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) ...I dont want to trade a clavicle for 3 seconds and get 257th. Looking for people willing to give up 3s at the end and make up 10min during the ride. Edited February 13, 2014 by TALUS GaryvdM and Underachiever 2
Speed Racer Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 CL for me. Weather will be fine and hot, with a 15 km/h easterly adding some spice.
rouxtjie Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Right picked up numbers for me and jcza...ready to roll. jcza and Wez-O 2
Mike Bike Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Right picked up numbers for me and jcza...ready to roll. where you starting Mnr?
rouxtjie Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 where you starting Mnr?C....for champion yous?
Underachiever Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 CL for me. Weather will be fine and hot, with a 15 km/h easterly adding some spice. Like the wind from the east!! Will make the hilly section into Heidelberg tougher, and the R23 drag easier, esp. if it blowns slightly from the south.
Speed Racer Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Like the wind from the east!! Will make the hilly section into Heidelberg tougher, and the R23 drag easier, esp. if it blowns slightly from the south. My sentiments exactly. I love that climb!
Mike Bike Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 C....for champion yous? will be safely in my bed!!
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