BigT4 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Interesting Read from a guy in Australia: Last week I wrote a post about Melbourne’s bunch ride culture and the direction it’s heading. Meanwhile, other cities in Australia manage to keep things in line because they haven’t lost the notion of “the patron of the peloton”. Someone directed me to a post written by Peter Wilborn from South Carolina (where the riding is spectacular I might add) which hit the nail on the head. With Peter’s permission I’ve reposted his article which nicely articulates what a bunch ride should be, and more importantly, what the leaders of the ride should be. Every so often, I’ll ride a recreational group ride. I love the camaraderie of cyclists, the talk, the last minute pumps of air, the clicking in, and the easy drifting out as a peloton. “I miss riding in a group,” I’ll think to myself. The magic ends by mile 10. The group will surge, gap, and separate, only to regroup at every stop sign. I’ll hear fifteen repeated screams of “HOLE!” for every minor road imperfection. And then no mention of the actual hole. Some guy in front will set a PB for his 30 second pull. Wheels overlap, brakes are tapped, and some guy in the back will go across the yellow line and speed past the peloton for no apparent reason. A breakaway?! I curse under my breath, remembering why I always ride with only a few friends. Doesn’t anyone else realize how dangerous this ride is? How bad it is for our reputation on the road? There are clear rules of ride etiquette, safety, and common sense. Does anyone here know the rules? Who is in charge? But no one is in charge, and the chaotic group has no idea of how to ride together. As a bike lawyer, I get the complaints from irritated drivers, concerned police, controversy-seeking journalists, and injured cyclists. It needs to get better, but the obstacles are real: First, everyone is an expert these days. The internet and a power meter do not replace 50,000 miles of experience, but try telling that to a fit forty year-old, new to cycling, on a $5000 bike. Or, god forbid, a triathlete. No one wants to be told what to do. Second, the more experienced riders just want to drop the others and not be bothered. It is all about the workout, the ego boost, or riding with a subset of friends. But a group ride is neither a race nor cycling Darwinism. As riders get better, they seek to distinguish themselves by riding faster on more trendy bikes; but as riders get better they need to realize two things: 1) there is always someone faster, and 2) they have obligations as leaders. Cycling is not a never ending ladder, each step aspiring upwards, casting aspersions down. It is a club, and we should want to expand and improve our membership. Third, different rides are advertised by average speed, but speed is only one part of the equation. This approach makes speed the sole metric for judging a cyclist, and creates the false impression that a fit rider is a good one. Almost anyone can be somewhat fast on a bike, but few learn to be elegant, graceful cyclists. Fourth, riding a bike well requires technique training. Good swimmers, for example, constantly work on form and drills; so should cyclists. Anyone remember the C.O.N.I. Manual or Eddie Borysewich’s book? They are out-of-print, but their traditional approach to bike technique should not be lost. More emphasis was given on fluid pedaling and bike handling. Before the internet, before custom bikes, and before Lance, it was done better. Learning to ride was an apprenticeship. The goal was to become a member of the peloton, not merely a guy who is sort of fast on a bike. Membership was the point, not to be the local Cat. 5 champ. You were invited to go on group ride if you showed a interest and a willingness to learn. You were uninvited if you did not. You learned the skills from directly from the leader, who took an interest in riding next to you on your first rides (and not next to his friends, like better riders do today). Here is some of what you learned: - To ride for months each year in the small ring. - To take your cycling shorts off immediately after a ride. - To start with a humble bike, probably used. - To pull without surging. - To run rotating pace line drills and flick others through. - To form an echelon. - To ride through the top of a climb. - To hold your line in a corner. - To stand up smoothly and not throw your bike back. - To give the person ahead of you on a climb a little more room to stand up. - To respect the yellow line rule. - To point out significant road problems. - To brake less, especially in a pace line. - To follow the wheel in front and not overlap. The ride leader and his lieutenants were serious about their roles, because the safety of the group depended on you, the weakest link. If you did not follow the rules, you were chastised. Harshly. If you did, you became a member of something spectacular. The Peloton ScottCM, no calves, Moriarty and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted March 7, 2014 Share That list is a now to do list for winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted March 7, 2014 Share Great stuff, lots of us feel the same way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowashell Posted March 7, 2014 Share Good common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beattbox Posted March 7, 2014 Share Interesting Read from a guy in Australia: Last week I wrote a post about Melbourne’s bunch ride culture and the direction it’s heading. Meanwhile, other cities in Australia manage to keep things in line because they haven’t lost the notion of “the patron of the peloton”. Someone directed me to a post written by Peter Wilborn from South Carolina (where the riding is spectacular I might add) which hit the nail on the head. With Peter’s permission I’ve reposted his article which nicely articulates what a bunch ride should be, and more importantly, what the leaders of the ride should be. Every so often, I’ll ride a recreational group ride. I love the camaraderie of cyclists, the talk, the last minute pumps of air, the clicking in, and the easy drifting out as a peloton. “I miss riding in a group,” I’ll think to myself. The magic ends by mile 10. The group will surge, gap, and separate, only to regroup at every stop sign. I’ll hear fifteen repeated screams of “HOLE!” for every minor road imperfection. And then no mention of the actual hole. Some guy in front will set a PB for his 30 second pull. Wheels overlap, brakes are tapped, and some guy in the back will go across the yellow line and speed past the peloton for no apparent reason. A breakaway?! I curse under my breath, remembering why I always ride with only a few friends. Doesn’t anyone else realize how dangerous this ride is? How bad it is for our reputation on the road? There are clear rules of ride etiquette, safety, and common sense. Does anyone here know the rules? Who is in charge? But no one is in charge, and the chaotic group has no idea of how to ride together. As a bike lawyer, I get the complaints from irritated drivers, concerned police, controversy-seeking journalists, and injured cyclists. It needs to get better, but the obstacles are real: First, everyone is an expert these days. The internet and a power meter do not replace 50,000 miles of experience, but try telling that to a fit forty year-old, new to cycling, on a $5000 bike. Or, god forbid, a triathlete. No one wants to be told what to do. Second, the more experienced riders just want to drop the others and not be bothered. It is all about the workout, the ego boost, or riding with a subset of friends. But a group ride is neither a race nor cycling Darwinism. As riders get better, they seek to distinguish themselves by riding faster on more trendy bikes; but as riders get better they need to realize two things: 1) there is always someone faster, and 2) they have obligations as leaders. Cycling is not a never ending ladder, each step aspiring upwards, casting aspersions down. It is a club, and we should want to expand and improve our membership. Third, different rides are advertised by average speed, but speed is only one part of the equation. This approach makes speed the sole metric for judging a cyclist, and creates the false impression that a fit rider is a good one. Almost anyone can be somewhat fast on a bike, but few learn to be elegant, graceful cyclists. Fourth, riding a bike well requires technique training. Good swimmers, for example, constantly work on form and drills; so should cyclists. Anyone remember the C.O.N.I. Manual or Eddie Borysewich’s book? They are out-of-print, but their traditional approach to bike technique should not be lost. More emphasis was given on fluid pedaling and bike handling. Before the internet, before custom bikes, and before Lance, it was done better. Learning to ride was an apprenticeship. The goal was to become a member of the peloton, not merely a guy who is sort of fast on a bike. Membership was the point, not to be the local Cat. 5 champ. You were invited to go on group ride if you showed a interest and a willingness to learn. You were uninvited if you did not. You learned the skills from directly from the leader, who took an interest in riding next to you on your first rides (and not next to his friends, like better riders do today). Here is some of what you learned: - To ride for months each year in the small ring. - To take your cycling shorts off immediately after a ride. - To start with a humble bike, probably used. - To pull without surging. - To run rotating pace line drills and flick others through. - To form an echelon. - To ride through the top of a climb. - To hold your line in a corner. - To stand up smoothly and not throw your bike back. - To give the person ahead of you on a climb a little more room to stand up. - To respect the yellow line rule. - To point out significant road problems. - To brake less, especially in a pace line. - To follow the wheel in front and not overlap. The ride leader and his lieutenants were serious about their roles, because the safety of the group depended on you, the weakest link. If you did not follow the rules, you were chastised. Harshly. If you did, you became a member of something spectacular. The Peloton Nail, head...consider it hit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted March 7, 2014 Share Great stuff, lots of us feel the same way! Agreed! Now to find a good group! Edited March 7, 2014 by Capricorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmind Posted March 7, 2014 Share This should be pinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javadude Posted March 7, 2014 Share Thats what I remember It was like in the 80's. You didn't screw up more than once on a ride, the senior guys would sort you out quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underachiever Posted March 7, 2014 Share Thats what I remember It was like in the 80's. You didn't screw up more than once on a ride, the senior guys would sort you out quickly. 1000% Rode the Radio Pretoria race last weekend, and it was only the 40+ riders in the group that understood all the mentioned "rules". The rest had no clue and was not teachable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham cube Posted March 7, 2014 Share When i started road riding with MCC. You were seriously shat on if you did not follow the rules. We always waited for the last rider to catch up, never left anyone behind. Nowadays it seems it is every one for themselves. That is why i stopped riding on the road. I only ride with mates and family as cycling should be about having fun not who is the fastest rider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted March 7, 2014 Share 1000% Rode the Radio Pretoria race last weekend, and it was only the 40+ riders in the group that understood all the mentioned "rules". The rest had no clue and was not teachable!moving to PTA soon and hope to find a group that can ride according to this. At least now I know why we have such a nice group . 80% of us in the 40+ group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT4 Posted March 7, 2014 Share I ride with a group of mates as well but its not fun anymore as everyone just wants to hurt the next one in a training ride and its should be about helping each other out and getting one another to a level where every one can enjoy racing against one another. A little bit of competition is good and what makes you enjoy the sport/hobby we love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Zone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Oh for the simple days when the golfers played golf and cyclists cycled. javadude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogma 60.1 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Good common sense. Exactly that, i'm 21 and have friends who does not abide by a single one of those rules. I've been riding for 3 years now on the road and have never seen those rules but i can say that if one used their head 99.9% of them are just common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratus5 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Gerhard Genis was fantastic at instigating discipline in the Outriders peloton. He has been sadly missed after a bad injury (broken leg) and moving to the northern suburbs, but has left enough of a legacy, such that we remember how it should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted March 7, 2014 Share Source of the article: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2011/09/the-lost-art-of-the-group-ride-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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