The Munga MTB Race

[Wyatt Earp]

Sure, but still bound by newton's 3rd....not going to happen

 

PS for a 48H win...they would need a 21km/h min avg...with no stopping / sleeping / resting.

 

I think the term "super human" often get's misunderstood.

We are flesh ,blood and bone, not nuts and bolts.

[davetapson]

Tinker Juarez.

 

From Wikipedia:

 

In 2005, Tinker began training for long-distance road racing events. He won the Heart of the South, which is a 500-mile (800 km) race, and finished second place at the 2005 edition of the Furnace Creek 508, a grueling 508-mile (818 km) course that covers 35,000 feet (11,000 m) of cumulative elevation gain and passes through Death Valley. His podium finishes qualified Tinker for the 2006 Race Across America (RAAM), the annual transcontinental bicycle race from the west coast to the east coast of the United States. He came in third in the Men's Solo Enduro division of the RAAM endurance road race on June 22, 2006, completing the three thousand mile race which started in 2006 from Oceanside, California and finishing in Atlantic City, New Jersey. His finishing time was 10 days, 22 hours and 21 minutes.^[12]

 

 

^{So it seems that 500 mile races are not uncommon in the States. Add 200km and you have 1000km.}

 

^{Furnace Creek goes through Death Valley. If you've been to Death Valley you'll know the Karroo is pretty mild in comparison.}

 

Record is 27:28. Held by Kenny Souza who is in the 40+ y.o. group.

 

Not sure how much of that is on single track tho. Also riders are allowed support vehicles.

 

http://www.the508.com/results.html

 

People dying during races? Not so much it seems.

 

Sidetrack: Check out RAAM - read Hell on Two Wheels by Amy Snyder to see what suffering is about, and that's on the road.

 

Edit: Don't know WTF is up with the font sizes.

[Wyatt Earp]

Tinker Juarez.

 

From Wikipedia:

 

In 2005, Tinker began training for long-distance road racing events. He won the Heart of the South, which is a 500-mile (800 km) race, and finished second place at the 2005 edition of the Furnace Creek 508, a grueling 508-mile (818 km) course that covers 35,000 feet (11,000 m) of cumulative elevation gain and passes through Death Valley. His podium finishes qualified Tinker for the 2006 Race Across America (RAAM), the annual transcontinental bicycle race from the west coast to the east coast of the United States. He came in third in the Men's Solo Enduro division of the RAAM endurance road race on June 22, 2006, completing the three thousand mile race which started in 2006 from Oceanside, California and finishing in Atlantic City, New Jersey. His finishing time was 10 days, 22 hours and 21 minutes.^[12]

 

 

^{So it seems that 500 mile races are not uncommon in the States. Add 200km and you have 1000km.}

 

^{Furnace Creek goes through Death Valley. If you've been to Death Valley you'll know the Karroo is pretty mild in comparison.}

 

Record is 27:28. Held by Kenny Souza who is in the 40+ y.o. group.

 

Not sure how much of that is on single track tho. Also riders are allowed support vehicles.

 

http://www.the508.com/results.html

 

People dying during races? Not so much it seems.

 

Sidetrack: Check out RAAM - read Hell on Two Wheels by Amy Snyder to see what suffering is about, and that's on the road.

 

Edit: Don't know WTF is up with the font sizes.

 

500 miles on a road bike and 500 miles on a MTB are worlds apart, and let's not forget it's a team event.

[Andrew Steer]

They would need motorbikes for that time.

I'd bet on under 2.5 days

[nathrix]

 

...snip...

 

Edit: Don't know WTF is up with the font sizes.

 

Copy the text into notepad and then copy and paste that

[nathrix]

How much climbing will be in this 1000km race, i estimate around about 12000 meters at minimum?

[ChUkKy]

Copy the text into notepad and then copy and paste that

 

Whats this notepad of which you speak, is it like an iPad?

[Shebeen]

it's impossible to say what an expected finish time is without the route, but let's speculate with the current known info.

 

i would have thought this would be the domain of a Jure Robic type android....a machine RAAM winner who was basically in the slovenian army to train fulltime for RAAM...he got fatally taken out in training a few years back. Sort of a jens voight meets kulhavy type oke.

 

I point to RAAM, because i think there's going to be a lot of district road. essentially from De Aar to Ceres you're on the old highway/transport route before the N1 was built....it's straight. any deviations on this and you need to add the distance to something more like 1300km. plus once you're 200km from capetown/stellenbosch you get the FC conundrum - finding routes but avoiding tar roads

 

there are basically three ways out of ceres;

mitchells pass...ie a tar road

mitchells pass - ie. a railway line

gydo pass/witzenberg valley/witzenberg pass...a whole lot tougher.

the option just here would indicate a lot on the finishing time.

 

anyway, just for kicks, let's look at the RAAM times

last year Christoph Strasser did the 4800km in under 8 days, yup it's on tar but that is going for ~200 hours @ 25km/h including stops - and no drafting allowed.

 

so that's what's possible.

let's throw in tougher roads

let's throw in a partner to draft(but slows down on the stops and variable energy levels)

let's throw in MASSIVE prize money(zip for RAAM)

let's throw in a course 5 times shorter.

 

then I don't think 25 km/h is impossible.

At that rate we're looking at 40 hours. so they wouldn't even stop for sleep.

 

but ja. depends on the route. if they stick with 1000km then it's going to be district all the way.

[DieVlieg]

Fact is we can not really say what the finishing time will be. But I do think people will push themselves to the limit beyond what they trained for as I think if you try to simulate this race you will need to much recovery time to actually do it before the race. Anyway this will test people like the comrades test people who are not that prepared. We do not see it as often in cycling where people collapse at the finish and need serious medical attention> The carrot is so big people are going to try and mind over matter this.

 

I think the winner will be the person who will have discipline to rest more regularly in the beginning although he does not need to and save his body.

 

Personally I can not even imagine finishing in 5 days. But if I could I would have rested 15 mins every 3 hours, 30 mins every 6 Hours and 2 hours evry 12 hours and 6 hours every 24 Hours or something like that. But as I said can not imagine being in the saddle more than 8 hours at this time in my life.

[Tothehills]

Thehub - Soeperbroe Style - The MUNGA race

 

WHO will claim bragging rights? Place your name here

 

Total distance (km) 1 000.00 Average speed (km/hour) 12.00 14.00 16.00 18.00 20.00 22.00 24.00 Time (hours) 83.33 71.43 62.50 55.56 50.00 45.45 41.67 Days (24 hours) 24 3.47 2.98 2.60 2.31 2.08 1.89 1.74 Ave speed (km/hour) Time Days Tothehills 18.89 52.94 2.206

[ChUkKy]

Even SARS / ANC is excited about this race, they get to milk the winners of a big chunk.

[Tothehills]

Total distance (km)

 

1 000.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

Average speed (km/hour)

 

12.00

14.00

16.00

18.00

20.00

22.00

24.00

Time (hours)

 

83.33

71.43

62.50

55.56

50.00

45.45

41.67

Days (24 hours)

24

3.47

2.98

2.60

2.31

2.08

1.89

1.74

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ave speed (km/hour)

Time

Days

 

 

Tothehills

 

18.89

52.94

2.206

[Tothehills]

Lets try this again

[Danger Dassie]

For the winning teams 2.5-3 days is not that outrageous.

Look at what competitors go through in Iditarod, Tour Divide, RASA etc ...

 

Martin Dreyer averaged about 19kmh throughout the night at Freedom challenge with none to minimal sleep. Alex Harris very much the same and has said numerous times that this event is not so much about fitness. Rather understanding your sleep program in dealing with sleep depravation and it's effects on not only physical output but the mental strength and mind games that come from lack of sleep. Some of his stories of the hallucinations are hair raising.

[Scooterza]

Here's what we do. We ask for Hubber volunteers. We hold trials (maybe riding for 48 hours non-stop) and the winning team gets the entry. We then get a kitty fund going to scrape together R100000 entry fee. Who's in!!?

[Red Zone]

How about about the hub gets a sponsored entry from the organisers - which can then go to a deserving party (i.e. me). They are getting some pretty decent publicity here, time to pay it forward