Skubarra Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 Some guys have, DG etc. What I am yet to see though is a doper who actively goes and exposes the other dopers. All good and well you admit to your mistake, but do something proactively to make up for it and give the clean guys you cheated a fair chance against the cheaters who have yet to be caught. Some of Lance's ex-teammates had a pretty good go at him when they were caught, Floyd Landis & Tyler Hamilton comes to mind. I assume caught dopers who have aspirations of returning to the sport after their suspensions have a lot to lose if they start ratting on their fellow riders.
FlandersZA Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 Not the first pro to get nailed and say they were told it's ok to use the substance while waiting for the TUE to be approved , so he should have known better. I want just one cyclist to man up and say.I doped,I got caught,end of. Seems this sport is full of cowards. Ok, I'm guilty. I chowed 4 GUs on Saturday doing a strava challenge.
Patchelicious Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 Some of Lance's ex-teammates had a pretty good go at him when they were caught, Floyd Landis & Tyler Hamilton comes to mind. I assume caught dopers who have aspirations of returning to the sport after their suspensions have a lot to lose if they start ratting on their fellow riders.I meant locally. But you have a point about returning. Perhaps if that wasn't an option there would be less doping and more exposing.
Gen Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 Yep, and he still got the pitchfork and burn-at-the-stake treatment on thehub so actually it makes no difference if they man up or play the innocent victim of circumstances card Oh yeah? That was before my hub time. He didn't even request a B sample lol. It's in our nature to get p off when they dope. Cause we invest far too much emotion into supporting athletes. Sigh.
Patchelicious Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 It's in our nature to get p off when they dope. Cause we invest far too much emotion into supporting athletes. Sigh.Excellent point. One word... Impey! I was so proud of the guy when he got yellow, I named by puppy after him, now the bloody dog needs a new name!
andydude Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 I don't know Brandon personally, but reading all his statements and tweets, etc. doesn't inspire any confidence in him. What I don't understand is, why would he start using the 'medicine' before official approval? He's more than a rider, a team manager, and should know better?
rouxtjie Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 I don't know Brandon personally, but reading all his statements and tweets, etc. doesn't inspire any confidence in him. What I don't understand is, why would he start using the 'medicine' before official approval? He's more than a rider, a team manager, and should know better?Pick me coach.....pick me.... On second thought.....nah, he is banned....the why is irrelevant now
Gen Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 Excellent point. One word... Impey! I was so proud of the guy when he got yellow, I named by puppy after him, now the bloody dog needs a new name! At least you didn't name a kid Impey. . Some people named their kids Lance.
Shebeen Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 Interestingly, the anti-doping tests I’d done at that year’s Cape Epic, Grape Escape, JoBerg2cand SA Marathon Champs hadn’t shown high levels of testosterone, even though Iwas declaring the use of Nebido on the test forms. The TUE application process took a few weeks and was eventually turned down. Assoon as I was informed my TUE application was unsuccessful, I stopped theNebido. But I’d already begun the testosterone boosting medication so it was inmy system (it’s apparently slow acting and stays in your body for some time). So I can assume that byJuly, the medication was effectively raising my low levels to a more normallevel, hence the presence of the testosterone was detected. ok, don't really want to nitpick a statement that has since been removed, but some real inconsistencies here.If he was only taking it for a few weeks, then how did he do all those races during that time? OR did he mark Nebido down on forms even after he had stopped using it? Also, some apparently and assumptions - surely he's had enough time to swot up what actually happened by now. http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/3898717/andre-rieu-o.gif
andydude Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 Pick me coach.....pick me.... On second thought.....nah, he is banned....the why is irrelevant nowI pick you! Honestly, I'm interested.
Reg Lizard Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 To dope or not to dope...argh hell, everyone is doing it, so it's "ok" or not
Gen Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 I could swear originally he said he received written confirmation from the woman to stary treatment now he says telephonic confirmation.
Skubarra Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 Oh yeah? That was before my hub time. He didn't even request a B sample lol. It's in our nature to get p off when they dope. Cause we invest far too much emotion into supporting athletes. Sigh. To be fair, he was a bit like the Andy Murray of SA MTB'ing, not the most universally loved rider out there... Lot of people were jumping up & down with glee when he got caught.
Gen Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 To be fair, he was a bit like the Andy Murray of SA MTB'ing, not the most universally loved rider out there... Lot of people were jumping up & down with glee when he got caught. Ha ha ha ha.
scuzzy Posted August 22, 2014 Posted August 22, 2014 I don't know why everybody is nailing the guy in this fashion if he clearly wanted to let SIADS know what was happening. Sure, he must have know better and not use it before being 100% sure, but damn, does he have to be crucified like this? O well, guys TheHub as made the decision.
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