Jhb JUMA ends cycling for me ...my rant

[Peach.]

U must mean 5000? Heard on the radio on Friday....

Fixed

[Tumbleweed]

But she did win the case....

And made a lot of money.....

How much? The settlement was never made public. The original claim for punitive damages was reduced. This case is full of urban myths.

 

The other big difference between a potential claim and the coffee issue is that the temperature at which McDonald's coffee was served was potentially dangerous and could cause third degree burns - a fact not made aware to customers - but mountain biking by its nature is potentially hazardous - something which anyone involved in the sport is acutely aware of.

[James Mulholland]

MTB007, listen and read carefully.

YOU WILL RIDE AGAIN!

Why I say this is because exactly the same thing happened to me!

Pins and plates, septicemia the works and I am more than likely older than you. Needless to say I ride almost every day, to work, have a jol and race events. I purchased an IDT trainer when I was released from hospital and was on it 4 days after the op - 2 mins at a time was progress! I have subsequently ridden to Cape Town 6mnths after the op, had the pins and plate removed after a year and have done Fickburg to East London unsupported as well.

 

I know where you are coming from. My ball was also out of the socket and floating around. I also had to make a decision hit a walking cyclist or fall off a cliff. Luckily, I chose the former and am riding again. Do it slowly and you will get there.

 

You are welcome to my IDT trainer but only if you promise to use it!

All the best and a speedy recovery. I like cycling too much to just give up.

Sorry to hear about what you went through. That's a nasty injury and the septicemia must have been a real life or limb risk. Very inspirational to see you managed to recover and still do rides most uninjured people would shy away from. MTB007, take this man up on his offer of the trainer!

[kosmonooit]

Yeah well $h!t happens to the best & worst of us,  hope it all gets sorted out. I am sure there are a more than a few of us who have been lying there in a hospital bed after a serious injury wondering if we would ever cycle again, happy to say it worked out for me.

 

The issue of technically challenging events (and dangerous to no0bs) has come up, in particular the Nissan series that happened at Van Gaalens a few times, some of those technical descents are not for the uninitiated - I cracked ribs after a body plant, but that was getting off lightly and really had my own over-confidence to blame BUT it raised the issue of grading of events, in particular the technical skills required, so one could match up your skills to the parcourse, but again Africa is not for sissies and I got told by the esteemed members of The Hub to go on a skills course.

[MTB0007]

hello

Seems I started a legal debatedebate

All those frienly dudes offering advice etc..

Greatly appreciate the positive support to recover and ride..

To those thinking I'm after some one or want to hold someone accountable..

Go back read my post

I have and always will accept responsibility for my races

To the poster who claims I was going to fast

I would have been better off had I been going even 5km/h..

I was freewheeling and sweerved past the sudden stopping lady

The sudden drop away of the front wheel sent me sideways

And the impact broke my hip.... I blame no one doing the race..

In answer to what treatment I received ?.

A Full Hip replacement ...

I don't want to sue anyone ..

I just believe too many people were doing one course ...

And the resulant array of accidents are evidence to this..

Johan Spies also a patient here due to JUMA crash also broke his hip in the race, ... He popped past to greet me, we chatted briefly this morning...

To the dudes saying I must man up..

I'm man enough to be piseed that overcrowding cased many cyclists injury..and in my opinion it could have been prevented..

To the generous dude offering the trainer ..Accepted will PM

 

I had to vent.. This being a cycling forum ..

Allows me to do so ..

I don't want or expect any Hub member to agree

Just allow me my Rant...

If you chose to Speak to more injured cyclists from

This event ... Youd get a sense of what causes unnessessary crashes and as cyclists I would hope we try prevent in safe riding

[Ryan's dad]

hello

Seems I started a legal debatedebate

All those frienly dudes offering advice etc..

Go back read my post

I have and always will accept responsibility for my races

To the poster who claims I was going to fast

I would have been better off had I been going even 5km/h..

I was freewheeling and sweerved past the sudden stopping lady

The sudden drop away of the front wheel sent me sideways

And the impact broke my hip.... I blame no one doing the race..

In answer to what treatment I received ?.

A Full Hip replacement ...

I don't want to sue anyone ..

I just believe too many people were doing one course ...

And the resulant array of accidents are evidence to this..

Johan Spies also a patient here due to JUMA crash also broke his hip in the race, ... He popped past to greet me, we chatted briefly this morning...

To the dudes saying I must man up..

I'm man enough to be piseed that overcrowding cased many cyclists injury..and in my opinion it could have been prevented..

To the generous dude offering the trainer ..Accepted will PM

I had to vent.. This being a cycling forum ..

Allows me to do so ..

I don't want or expect any Hub member to agree

Just allow me my Rant...

If you chose to Speak to more injured cyclists from

This event ... Youd get a sense of what causes unnessessary crashes and as cyclists I would hope we try prevent in safe riding

I can't even begin to imagine how peeved you must be with the way that all the factors worked out that resulted in your injury. My dad just had his hip replaced and he is itching to get back on the bike.

Hopefully everyone involved with organizing any event will be taking notes on what people have complained about and make the right changes to make them even more enjoyable. (Not just dumb them down into more jeep track rides)

I really hope that you recovery is fast and that you find yourself on a bike in the near future.

[marko35s]

But she did win the case....

And made a lot of money.....

Oddly enough all that lady wanted was around $18k to cover medical expenses incurred and lost income, McDonalds refused and offered $800 and it all went wrong from there.

The lady and later her lawayer made multiple attempts to settle for lower figures and were knocked back every time. When it went to court it looks like the jury wanted to teach the big nasty corporation a lesson.

[marko35s]

A couple of years back a youngster broke his neck riding in Tokai, he will never ride again.

He has no choice, you do.

[nonky]

But she did win the case....

And made a lot of money.....

But the damages awarded were substantially reduced on appeal, when the matter came before a real judge.

All the headline US cases are JURY JUDGMENTS, which usually don't stand up to appeal to a higher court.

Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants:  original award was $160k compensatory damages and $2.7m punitive damages.  Punitive reduvced to $460k on appeal.

Parties then reached a out-of-court settlement for an undisclosed amount.

[Lurch the stalker]

MTB0007,

 

I broke my elbow in 3 places in a MTB accident a few years back.

While I am not comparing that injury to yours, I will say, a positive attitude will go a long way, and the more important part was a physiotherapist who understood my requirements.

The surgeon initially said I would never have full extension of the arm again, and with riding and martial arts I found that completely unacceptable.

I was very fortunate that the physio I was also a guy who is into martial arts as well so could understand why I was so insistent to push and get full use back.

I suffered through months of physio, but, my arm has full extension now. The last time I saw the physio was a Saturday morning and the very first thing I did was go home and get on the bike.

 

Hope you have a speedy recovery.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

hello

Seems I started a legal debatedebate

All those frienly dudes offering advice etc..

Greatly appreciate the positive support to recover and ride..

To those thinking I'm after some one or want to hold someone accountable..

Go back read my post

I have and always will accept responsibility for my races

To the poster who claims I was going to fast

I would have been better off had I been going even 5km/h..

I was freewheeling and sweerved past the sudden stopping lady

The sudden drop away of the front wheel sent me sideways

And the impact broke my hip.... I blame no one doing the race..

In answer to what treatment I received ?.

A Full Hip replacement ...

I don't want to sue anyone ..

I just believe too many people were doing one course ...

And the resulant array of accidents are evidence to this..

Johan Spies also a patient here due to JUMA crash also broke his hip in the race, ... He popped past to greet me, we chatted briefly this morning...

To the dudes saying I must man up..

I'm man enough to be piseed that overcrowding cased many cyclists injury..and in my opinion it could have been prevented..

To the generous dude offering the trainer ..Accepted will PM

 

I had to vent.. This being a cycling forum ..

Allows me to do so ..

I don't want or expect any Hub member to agree

Just allow me my Rant...

If you chose to Speak to more injured cyclists from

This event ... Youd get a sense of what causes unnessessary crashes and as cyclists I would hope we try prevent in safe riding

100% dude. Rant is perfectly acceptable given your circumstances.

 

BFK was the one calling for legal action... .

[Bonus]

Glad to see that there are some similar stories with happy endings.

 

Hard work and suffering ahead, no doubt about that, but I think you are up to the challenge.

 

Best of luck mate, keep us posted . . . . . .

 

Bonus.

[VicanZA]

When I was doing the trail-seekers and they had a limit of 2400 riders with 800 in the marathon and the rest on the half, when the 2 distances joined it was busy.

 

with over 5000 it must be crazy!

 

That number is close to the 94.7 MTB race and we know how everyone bitched about that last year.

 

Too many riders no matter what skill level they ride at make any event ***.

[goya-goya]

All I can say: Thank god there are guys like you around...    

 

I can $%&? up stuff, make stuff dangerous, injure people because I am down right negligent and because you are all tough guys you will take it on the chin and blame yourself.

 

Lurve you guys...

 

Watch this space for the next Urban Challenge $$$$$ 

 

Dont chicken out now!

 

and please dont go crying to your mommy when you get get a boo-boo  

[fabes]

I'm sorry you're hurt and I'm sorry you're feeling the way you are about this whole thing, but you need a bit of a wake up man.

 

If you were in a car, and someone slammed on brakes in front of you, you, as a law abiding and safe following distance keeping driver, would never have to worry, right?

 

So why, as a much more skilled rider than those around you (as you seem to imply), would not, with your wiser judgement and keener eyes, notice the danger and slow the hell down??

 

Why would you see all the noobs around and think it's still okay to go so fast that someone stopping in front of you makes you take the lesser of two horrible choices?

 

You need to man up and take responsibility that you were a bietjie windgat, and now you think the organisers are the ones at fault? They offered you a course to ride. They didn't guarantee your safety, nor was their event advertised as completely and totally safe. When has there ever been an event that would guarantee that??

 

Sorry, but you're paying the price for bad decision making on your part. Sometimes the price is higher than other times.

 

To be honest, your post sounds much like my teenage sister posting on Facebook that she's going to delete her account. It's a cry for attention, and if you stop biking, no one cares. You're the only one missing out. The organisers will get entries next year. Someone will be eager to take yours.

 

So man up, get well, and make better choices next time. Ride safer. And realise the difference between a chance to race and a chance to relax and enjoy the course for what it offered you.

Terrible post

[Spruit trail goblin]

MTB0007, hey Man, speedily recovery, you will be back on the bike again! A mate of mine had a broken hip from cash in a rock garden and is back on the bike again.

 

We were all on a learning curve riding this Urban Adventure (not to mention the organisers aswell). The challenge of the Park View Golf course storm water drain was that it was V shaped (sloping to the centre where the water was running deep), so when you swerved to missed the lady, your front wheel probably lost traction on the slope and the green moss, whilst your momentum was still forward? (thereafter you hit a hole off the riding line?)

 

May i ask when you last tried to ride past another rider (in a "normal mtb race") when you were crossing a river section? I don't know of many people who have done that, as the safest line is following the rider in front of you...so if you were n't trying to over take, you would have been at the same speed as her, so when she braked, you could brake?

 

Time moves on, and i wish you a healthy recovery and many happy miles on your mountain bike!