UCI to refuse Astana WorldTour licence for 2015 ......

[NotSoBigBen]

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/uci-refuse-astana-worldtour-licence-2015-according-reports-147842#qVWgqImRW2Xs5CLX.99

 

Astana will not be awarded a WorldTour licence for 2015 after two high profile doping cases of the Iglinskiy brothers and three other cases in its Continental team, according to reports in La Gazzetta dello Sport.........

[UpShift_Cycles]

Chances are they will still be invited to TDF. Don't think it will really make that much difference to the team. Once a cheat ALWAYS a cheat

[jcza]

Final decision pending but I say UCI will roll over and grant licence. Will certainly be a crisis.

[BDF]

 

Chances are they will still be invited to TDF. Don't think it will really make that much difference to the team. Once a cheat ALWAYS a cheat

 

You think there's no room for change? Whilst I strongly disapprove of cheating and many other things people choose to do, I think there is always a place for personal change in people. I have certainly needed room for change and people's acceptance of that change in my life. Perhaps you are perfect and don't need any grace though.

[Slowbee]

You think there's no room for change? Whilst I strongly disapprove of cheating and many other things people choose to do, I think there is always a place for personal change in people. I have certainly needed room for change and people's acceptance of that change in my life. Perhaps you are perfect and don't need any grace though.

 

Maybe the UCI knows the team doctor will still be the same?

 

*right let me put this on the watch list, fetch the popcorn, and pineapple pizza*

[T-Bob]

5 internal cases across dev and pro team. Shared DS' between all teams, 2x doctors on the payroll with very, very dubious pasts, Roman K being investigated from his time there, and Vino' the doper as a manager. There needs to be a line in the sand if the UCi are serious. 

Jeez, if it looks like a chicken, moves like a chicken and squarks like a chicken.... 

[andydude]

There must be a mistake. This is the new generation. They won't dope. The sport is clean now. Let them ride!

['Dale]

Astana will have recourse to appeal too...

['Dale]

IAM is now on WorldTour level

 

GO CHAVANEL

[SwissVan]

5 internal cases across dev and pro team. Shared DS' between all teams, 2x doctors on the payroll with very, very dubious pasts, Roman K being investigated from his time there, and Vino' the doper as a manager. There needs to be a line in the sand if the UCi are serious. 

 

Jeez, if it looks like a chicken, moves like a chicken and squarks like a chicken.... 

 

And poor Oom LAnce cant even enter a fun ride....

[Brickleberry]

Lance was used as a scapegoat for a filthy sport that figured if they nail the "ring leader" the others could carry on un-noticed. Anyone who thinks cycling is in anyway a clean sport in 2014 is delusional.

[andydude]

Although another sport, related in terms of doping. This is going to be a big expose:

 

Olympic And World 800 Champion Mariya Savinova Implicated In Massive Russian Doping Scandal

 

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/12/olympic-world-800-champion-mariya-savinova-implicated-massive-russian-doping-scandal/

[javadude]

You think there's no room for change? Whilst I strongly disapprove of cheating and many other things people choose to do, I think there is always a place for personal change in people. I have certainly needed room for change and people's acceptance of that change in my life. Perhaps you are perfect and don't need any grace though.

 

LOL, this is the same BS we had to endure for 15 years before Lance was busted. Please stop it now. Cycling, was, is, and always will be, corrupt.

[BDF]

LOL, this is the same BS we had to endure for 15 years before Lance was busted. Please stop it now. Cycling, was, is, and always will be, corrupt.

You clearly miss my point. I make no reference to cycling not being corrupt. For that matter its quite easy to label virtually any sport, from Powerlifting to Horseracing and everything in between as corrupt. That's not my point though. My point is that its easy to pop out witty-sounding one-liners like "once a cheat, always a cheat". They sound nice, especially when we  say them from our perceived self-righteous state. Unfortunately the reality is that it is a cheap judgment. I have NO DOUBT that you, me and everybody else has broken at least 1 law in our lifetimes. Does this mean that the label of "lawbreaker" (read as cheat, liar, thief, tax dodger, speed transgressor, etc) should be a banner hung around our necks forever? You can wear yours if you want, but don't hang your convictions around my neck!

[Ozzie NL]

You clearly miss my point. I make no reference to cycling not being corrupt. For that matter its quite easy to label virtually any sport, from Powerlifting to Horseracing and everything in between as corrupt. That's not my point though. My point is that its easy to pop out witty-sounding one-liners like "once a cheat, always a cheat". They sound nice, especially when we  say them from our perceived self-righteous state. Unfortunately the reality is that it is a cheap judgment. I have NO DOUBT that you, me and everybody else has broken at least 1 law in our lifetimes. Does this mean that the label of "lawbreaker" (read as cheat, liar, thief, tax dodger, speed transgressor, etc) should be a banner hung around our necks forever? You can wear yours if you want, but don't hang your convictions around my neck!

Am Dutch and thus am supposed to view laws as guidance at best  

[jcza]

There must be a mistake. This is the new generation. They won't dope. The sport is clean now. Let them ride!

 

Yip listening to Sir Dave.....clean riders are now faster than them old dirty riders. New generation, marginal gains etc etc. 6.5W/kg is the new normal.