To the 57 year old Bianchi Methanol rider

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

You were riding UP the trail known as DH2 at about 4h15 / 4h30 this afternoon, on your Bianchi Methanol (kick-ass bike, btw) and myself and Marko35s confronted you and informed you that the trail in question was categorised as a mono-directional trail, and as such it was against the rules of the trail system (and by extension TMNP) to ride up said trails. 

 

Despite at various points trying to explain that it was both dangerous and against the rules to be riding up a Downhill Only trail, you continued to raise your voice and accuse us of being "gods of the mountain" and "downhillers" and accuse us of creating an "us and them" environment whereby only downhillers needs are seen to.

 

Unfortunately, your instant reaction upon being confronted was one of righteous indignation, arrogance, entitlement and shock at being told that you cannot ride up a trail designated as Downhill only. Your instant attitude was one of aggression, repeatedly telling us that you were "not afraid of us", "don't care how big we are", "do this all the time" and "just want us to all work together"

 

Despite your protestations and attempts at justification (which were numerous) the fact remains that you were riding up a trail that people descend without the expectation of having someone in their way, coming in the opposite direction. The average speed of the majority of riders that come down there does hit 50 plus KPH (the top rider does that entire trail in just 20 seconds) and if you were to encounter someone coming down said trail, there is no way in hell you would hear and / or see them in time in order to react and pull out the trail (despite how experienced you say you are)

 

Now, I know you took none of what Mark & I said to heart, as your opinion of yourself was entirely too inflated in order to accept that you were doing something wrong and were at fault. Despite that, what you are is a typical case study in why this country is going to the dogs. A blatant disregard for the rules of the trail that you (may not, come to think of it) pay to ride, as well as an increasing level of self entitlement which causes you to think that you can do anything without being confronted, as long as you have the louder voice and can try to justify your actions to a level that you think that your actions are okay. 

 

The excuses which we were given were, amongst others:

 

I always do it

It's the best trail to test your ascending technical skills

You're experienced, and can move out the way in time for those coming down

You ride without music, so can hear people coming

It's god's country, and we should all be able to enjoy it

I (as in me) am a downhiller, so I'm only looking out for Downhillers (I'm not a downhiller, btw - I just ride)

Who makes up the rules? I didn't sign up for them (you did, actually, when you paid for your annual pass - which I'm assuming you have, btw)

It's quiet

I paid to ride here

You're 57 and you don't care what the rules are (followed by "I just want us all to get along")

You ride where you want to...

We're doing more damage by pushing our bikes up the trails (we weren't, btw - we pushed up the jeep track as it's much easier. We push up NEXT to the trail when we go to the top of a downhill section)

 

 

Etc etc. 

 

See, the thing is (whatever your name is) - what we tried to say (repeatedly, and every time we said it your voice just got louder and you interrupted us more often) is that you can NOT ride up a trail designated as Downhill Only. End of story. Directionality is one of the few things that maintains order in trail systems, and is shown on the Tokai MTB website, the entry board to the park (designated as highly technical downhill trails) and in signposts on the mountain itself. In your own words, you've previously come up against folks like us who have told you that what you are doing is wrong. Despite that, you continued to do it. Ignorance is not a justification, as by your own words you have been riding there for more than 4 years. 

 

The reason you cannot ride up a downhill only trail is that it is dangerous. Not from a technical perspective, but for one single reason. Riders do not expect you to be coming in the opposite direction. As such, they are not looking out for riders ascending, and when they come down at 30 / 40 / 50 kph they will have to take drastic avoiding action and by all likelihood end up injuring not only themselves, but also you in the process. It's the same reason that driving the wrong way down a 1-way street is in no way justifiable. 

 

I do hope this gets to you, and that you calm your horses (and sense of entitlement - the force is strong on that one)

 

However - I do regret my profanity - at the time, that was the only way that I could get you to shut up and let me speak, besides just talking louder than you. 

 

Whatever your name is, know this. You are not only endangering other riders, you are endangering the access to the park itself. If we (as mountain bikers) cannot adhere to the rules of the park, our attempts to better our relationship with the park and lobby for additional trail (yes, the committee is lobbying for a dedicated climbing trail with suitable technicality, linking up all the trails, but you didn't let us get to that, did you) and all the work over the past year is for naught. 

 

But, at the end. I hope you do not continue to ride up the trails designated as down only. If only to prevent somebody from ploughing into you (on bike or fist) in the very near future... 

[Johny Bravo]

You lost me at Bianchi Methanol, thats not even a real mountain bike. Did he realise he was on a mountain.

[Mongoose!]

Eish man. When do you guys get time to type all these? Sorry did not read it...yet.

[Overlord]

You should have dragged his arse of the trail. I don't care how old you are. If I find you doing things like that you will be removed.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Eish man. When do you guys get time to type all these? Sorry did not read it...yet.

LOL. Just got back, and opened a beer. Little one and wiffie at gym, swimming... 

[BrandonF_]

so glad I live on this side of the "curtain", we all just follow the arrows, or get shot at by Cab Sav Farmers

[Raydek]

Aai, some mothers children....

[Bizkit031]

Wahahahahaha what a TAPPET,some people don't use those things they call eyes. Guys need to be educated in trail etiquette and bloody manners and just chill out and not get all hot under the collar when people try and correct you.

[Thug]

Shouldn't a number board system be introduced that requires everyone to display?

 

If it was, you would know the pricks name and in future could be banned from riding the trails if he continues to display contempt for the trails and other riders.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Shouldn't a number board system be introduced that requires everyone to display?

 

If it was, you would know the pricks name and in future could be banned from riding the trails if he continues to display contempt for the trails and other riders.

Yep. Agreed fully

[Samurai Pizza Cat]

Sorry to see that you guys in CT have the same problems as us "Spruit Rats".

 

But do not worry, I'm sure " Nerd and his buddies would support this awesome four letter pr*ck 100%.

 

Some people just need a high five...in the face....with a chair.

[marko35s]

You should have dragged his arse of the trail. I don't care how old you are. If I find you doing things like that you will be removed.

He wasn't getting past...

Any debate or argument that has me as the calming influence or the voice of reason has taken a very strange turn. I tried to get everybody to shake hands and part amicably but the dick swinger was having non of it, he is apparently a guy that garners respect and fear through bullying. I was terrified [emoji1]

My simple request was that he take his issues up with the committee rather than acting like a selfish ass on the trails, let's see if he can shout his way through them.

It's really simple - it's a safety issue, just follow the rules and we don't have ridiculous shouting matches on the mountain. Everybody wins.

[Capricorn]

He wasn't getting past...

 

 

i hope that meant you assisted him pushing his bike up the hill. I think that sort of humiliation is the best type of snubbing for these cretins.

[the nerd]

Sorry to see that you guys in CT have the same problems as us "Spruit Rats".

 

But do not worry, I'm sure " Nerd and his buddies would support this awesome four letter pr*ck 100%.

 

Some people just need a high five...in the face....with a chair.

 

I don't support blatant disregard for a trail system that you pay annually for if you read what i typed in the other thread. Also my "buddies" and I pay to ride at places, much like these guys. 

 

You ride on a servitude and try and compare it to tokai.

 

Also don't try and legitimise you're blatant disregard for other peoples choices in a public park compared to a long standing and often difficult relationship these guys have with TMNP and Parks in general. 

 

They HAVE  PERMISSION to build there. 

 

 

 

Also to the OP and guys involved in the Cape, i take my hat off to you okes for putting up with the constant battle with Parks and TMNP. I often feel if we had a support system like the states although not perfect they have an almost political influence over there. 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

i hope that meant you assisted him pushing his bike up the hill. I think that sort of humiliation is the best type of snubbing for these cretins.

I stepped onto the middle of the trail. I'm not a fella that's easily passed.

['Dale]

This thread neem some photos of the Methanol

 

And how dare he call you and Mark dude as "big..."