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realistically how many different mules are there or would there normally be......is all the 'R&D' just PR once the frame has been designed on a computer and then welded up?

 

*disclaimer: not trolling, just curious.

Generally speaking that will greatly depend on budget and scale of the task at hand. For most, if not all manufacturers, computers can do quite a bit these days.

 

oops, your seat tube gusset just fell off..... :)

That's a different size to the one in my pics

 

I guess I would alone in thinking these momsen's are not terribly attractive to look at. Ms

Making that down tube less of a "s" would bump it up a notch in the aesthetics departments

Very personal as with all things. Reaction of the people who have asked about it on the trails or who I know and have seen it has been good all round.

 

http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/e15/10865222_706670126106770_1509825381_n.jpg

 

Bottle mount is useless where it is.

With that shock, yes. 

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