Odinson Posted March 27, 2015 Share I just hope for their sake Ariane and Annika dont race ....hehe I should add that in my opinion Max, Kevin, Burry and Jacques - the best we have/had No way. So you're discounting guys like Beukes, Buys, Bell, Kleinhans and all of the young guns, such as Rourke and Croeser? We have a hell of a lot of local talent. scotty and nonky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canfan Posted March 27, 2015 Share No way. So you're discounting guys like Beukes, Buys, Bell, Kleinhans and all of the young guns, such as Rourke and Croeser? We have a hell of a lot of local talent. Rourke Croeser is one person, do you mean Travis Walker? Skubarra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted March 27, 2015 Share People really find it very hard to comprehend the vast differences in genetically gifted freaks, gifted people and hard training people.The best riders on the world pitch at Epic, genetic freaks and everyone else should and will make peace with the fact that they are sucking hind tit. So all riders can be classed according to these "categories" and they are mutually exclusive? Let's take Usain Bolt - the fastest man in the world, who, without a doubt, is a "genetic freak", insanely talented, but also incredibly hard working. There shouldn't be excuses at this level. It's BS for someone to say "I'm a genetic freak, so it's okay for me to have been pipped by the hard training guys (and gals)". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted March 27, 2015 Share Rourke Croeser is one person, do you mean Travis Walker? Brainfart. My apologies. canfan, nonky and Wyatt Earp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAD4 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Rourke Croeser is one person, do you mean Travis Walker?Don't discount the team Dynamix amongst these guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted March 27, 2015 Share So all riders can be classed according to these "categories" and they are mutually exclusive? Let's take Usain Bolt - the fastest man in the world, who, without a doubt, is a "genetic freak", insanely talented, but also incredibly hard working. There shouldn't be excuses at this level. It's BS for someone to say "I'm a genetic freak, so it's okay for me to have been pipped by the hard training guys (and gals)". You have it the wrong way around.The genetic freak (Sauser in this case) still trains as hard as anyone else, and no matter how hard you , myself or anyone else trains that didn't fall in to the gene pool of what he got ,we are sucking hind tit . Spoke101, Gandalf and nathrix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted March 27, 2015 Share You have it the wrong way around.The genetic freak (Sauser in this case) still trains as hard as anyone else, and no matter how hard you , myself or anyone else trains that didn't fall in to the gene pool of what he got ,we are sucking hind tit . Okay. That's a bit clearer. Much like when the other sprinters line up next to Bolt. No matter how hard you trained or how gifted you are, you're not going to finish first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted March 27, 2015 Share Okay. That's a bit clearer. Much like when the other sprinters line up next to Bolt. No matter how hard you trained or how gifted you are, you're not going to finish first. That's right.It appears we don't get taught these things in the South African culture.That is why we gave the unfriendly internal racing going on all the time, Vets dope for prestige and friendships fall apart because "a buddy beat me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyB Posted March 27, 2015 Share You have it the wrong way around.The genetic freak (Sauser in this case) still trains as hard as anyone else, and no matter how hard you , myself or anyone else trains that didn't fall in to the gene pool of what he got ,we are sucking hind tit . What about Chuck Norris..... But yeah....sad but true!! Wyatt Earp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted March 27, 2015 Share What about Chuck Norris..... But yeah....sad but true!!Kaalvoet Klontjie . EmptyB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted March 27, 2015 Share People really find it very hard to comprehend the vast differences in genetically gifted freaks, gifted people and hard training people.The best riders on the world pitch at Epic, genetic freaks and everyone else should and will make peace with the fact that they are sucking hind tit.Oh hells no, I am by no means looking at the results of those monsters like Sauser and Kulhavy, 330+ W for 5 hours HOLY SH#$!! Remember, I was asking how you guys think they will do at Sani based on their results, and I should have been more clear. How did they do vs the other SA boys (and old men ) at Epic. I think there were 9 South African teams ahead of them at Epic? Stand to be corrected. So I think to be honest, unless they just had a very bad Epic, or all those other teams are are focusing on J2C rather, then I am sure they will have a hard task defending. But lets wait and see what happens Edited March 27, 2015 by Patchelicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted March 27, 2015 Share The biggest problem with SA sports culture is that we cannot seem to take a long term view on things like sponsorship. Here our European counterparts are light-years ahead of us. Teams like Bulls, Topeak-Ergon, Merida and the like seem to retain their sponsorship even if things get a bit rough at times. We are quick to ditch our experienced riders for "new talent". The reality is that we can hardly fill up a taxi with the promise we have in SA, so we need to nurture and support our experienced riders even more. Max is 28 and Kevin 36. If Sauser has an Epic win in him at 38 (and he probably would have been competitive at 39 as well), Evans and Knox can certainly be competitive at Sani2C. I think we need to stop being fans and start being supporters. These guys don't need a fan base, they need supporters as what they are doing day in and day out might look like one huge adventure to us, but to them it is also their livelihoods and passion. Danger Dassie, Odinson, spy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyB Posted March 27, 2015 Share Oh hells no, I am by no means looking at the results of those monsters like Sauser and Kulhavy, 330+ W for 5 hours HOLY SH#$!! Remember, I was asking how you guys think they will do at Sani based on their results, and I should have been more clear. How did they do vs the other SA boys (and old men ) at Epic. I think there were 9 South African teams ahead of them at Epic? Stand to be corrected. So I think to be honest, unless they just had a very bad Epic, or all those other teams are are focusing on J2C rather, then I am sure they will have a hard task defending. But lets wait and see what happens Holy Sh*t indeed !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonky Posted March 27, 2015 Share How it feels for professional athletes when they are criticised by amateurs http://www.theguardian.com/sport/willstrop-s-world/2015/mar/25/james-willstrop-squash-professional-athletes-criticism-amateurs-andy-murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francois Pienaar Posted March 27, 2015 Share I'm honestly surprised these guys even have sponsors.How can you say that? They were 24th overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted March 27, 2015 Share How it feels for professional athletes when they are criticised by amateurs http://www.theguardian.com/sport/willstrop-s-world/2015/mar/25/james-willstrop-squash-professional-athletes-criticism-amateurs-andy-murrayHow is asking how they will do equal to criticizing them? There is a difference! We don't need to jump on our high horse at every opportunity. Who the potential winners of a race and how they faired in previous races is a valid debatable point! If people can't see that then they need to wake up. Not every bloody thing posted on the hub is an attack on something else!! And in any event, criticism along with praise is part and parcel of a pro athletes career. EmptyB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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