Another Adverse Analytical Finding

[JXV]

Endless debate - some want bans for life for any level of indiscretion and others say serve your time and welcome back.

Approach the cycling bodies if the sanctions are not to your taste - they are accountable to their memberships.

 

Here's a lateral thinking alternative. Institute a clean seeding log for races that declare themselves as clean. At these races every podium finisher pees in a cup before climbing onto the podium. Prize money in trust until results are cleared. each podium finisher that gets an "adverse" finding gets a heavy time handicap and loses all seeding points (start at the bottom of the log again). Anyone moving up to a podium after a disqualification also gets tested .....

 

No life bans or anything else needed. You are simply blocked from achieving anything every time that cheating gets you anywhere near the top.

 

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[EvanB]

Also, if you come back after being caught doping - you have to pay for mandatory in competition and out of competition testing from your own pocket.

 

Get tested every race

[Tumbleweed]

His hub name was Chunky and he was a track cyclist called Shaun Lynch.

To clear things up, Chunky and Grey Owl were mates but not the same hubber.

 

So the guy in the Palio ad is the latter - fell foul of Popeye over TAG Heuer watches, Huis Genoot and pool manuals, and a dodgy meeting in a hangar.

 

The former, Chunky, was quite a character on the hub. Self-confessed doper, but maintained that he never sold the stuff himself. Just advised on it.

[Slowbee]

To clear things up, Chunky and Grey Owl were mates but not the same hubber.

 

So the guy in the Palio ad is the latter - fell foul of Popeye over TAG Heuer watches, Huis Genoot and pool manuals, and a dodgy meeting in a hangar.

 

Chunky was quite a character on the hub.

and who was the girl ?

 

And what does Grey Owl do with his life now?

[Tumbleweed]

and who was the girl ?

 

And what does Grey Owl do with his life now?

Oh, he's around... ;-)

[EmptyB]

The fat Telkom cheat.

But he showed remorse so it's fine now...

[eddy]

 

The former, Chunky, was quite a character on the hub. Self-confessed doper, but maintained that he never sold the stuff himself. Just advised on it.

 

 

I met Chunky on the Saturday morning rides past the Lido in the late 90s early 2000s. He was in many ways a larger than life figure and keen to help.

 

He spoke openly on the bike about having been bust , never offered me any advice or muti, but did teach me about watching the grass on the side of the road to determine wind direction and how to use that information to find the sweet spot in a bunch.

 

Although I did not say one word to him off the bike, he was a nice enough guy in the bunch and punched a big hole in the air as the pace got hot up the steps...

[Bateleur1]

To clear things up, Chunky and Grey Owl were mates but not the same hubber.

 

So the guy in the Palio ad is the latter - fell foul of Popeye over TAG Heuer watches, Huis Genoot and pool manuals, and a dodgy meeting in a hangar.

 

The former, Chunky, was quite a character on the hub. Self-confessed doper, but maintained that he never sold the stuff himself. Just advised on it.

 

That is where I got my lines crossed.

[SwissVan]

I still think the death sentence would sort out 99% of dopers past, present and potential

 

Perhaps patch will dig up that post I made way back then ????

[Frosty]

It was some time ago.  It was the cyclist in this video ...

 

 

If memory serves me correctly he was a well known track cyclist and was busted.

Chunky = Shawn = Carte Blanche

Grey Owl = Simon = above video

 

Haven't seen or heard from Chunky for years.

Grey Owl has a LBS in my area

[Slowbee]

I will be honest and say I miss Grey Owl and Chunky and TNT, and Fatcyclist, Mr Colonel (but he's back) and others of that era. These guys new how to ride their bikes and were always willing to offer help and advice to newbies. Its a culture that is getting a bit more tricky to find. Its here, but a bit tricky to find.

 

The example Eddy gave is a classic example. I mean Grey Owl even sent me some bars for free cause I was worried about the current size I had on the ciocc.

[deanbean]

I will be honest and say I miss Grey Owl and Chunky and TNT, and Fatcyclist, Mr Colonel (but he's back) and others of that era. These guys new how to ride their bikes and were always willing to offer help and advice to newbies. Its a culture that is getting a bit more tricky to find. Its here, but a bit tricky to find.

 

The example Eddy gave is a classic example. I mean Grey Owl even sent me some bars for free cause I was worried about the current size I had on the ciocc.

The Colonel shouting "Doper" at lance when he came to SA for argust. I've seen posts from him under his real name.

 

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[SwissVan]

The Colonel shouting "Doper" at lance when he came to SA for argust. I've seen posts from him under his real name.

 

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Joh... we fan boys gave him flak for that     

[milky4130]

I will be honest and say I miss Grey Owl and Chunky and TNT, and Fatcyclist, Mr Colonel (but he's back) and others of that era. These guys new how to ride their bikes and were always willing to offer help and advice to newbies. Its a culture that is getting a bit more tricky to find. Its here, but a bit tricky to find.

 

The example Eddy gave is a classic example. I mean Grey Owl even sent me some bars for free cause I was worried about the current size I had on the ciocc.

phatcyclist introduced me to the hub, moved up to Jhb for work & has since done his Masters or is in progress.

[davetapson]

 

 

 

but in my books better testing & an efficient system are more effective than life bans.

 

Given that testing is 5 years (or whatever, doesn't matter) behind state of the art dopers, how exactly are we going to get 'better testing'? 

 

Given that half the time testers don't even know yet what they should be testing for, what are the chances?