Johny Bravo Posted June 6, 2015 Share I agree that these bike don't have the same winning pedigree as a Specialized but does that mean Pat should give them away at cost price and not make a profit? Secondly please show me where I can get an S-Works Epic for less than R94 400.00S works Epic has a much better spec than this friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoke101 Posted June 6, 2015 Share S works Epic has a much better spec than this friend. Apart from the Brain suspension what is much better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted June 6, 2015 Share S works Epic has a much better spec than this friend.Not sure about that eh. Apart from the 35mm dropper and the carbon bar, not much difference. XX1 vs xtr, both RS1, raceface next sl crank vs xtr (point in favour of the pyga on that one) and then both have carbon rims... Apart from that and the SWAT system, there's just a case of sram vs shimano. Lone_Ranger, Spoke101, RockCoach and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baaisikilist Posted June 6, 2015 Share Morewood's are best know for the gravity side, going downhill FAST. GSoooo, what I'm getting here is that you're a fan...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesme Posted June 6, 2015 Share B Yes, I have one of his bikes, and will be getting a 2nd. G Soooo, what I'm getting here is that you're a fan...? Tatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted June 6, 2015 Share Not sure about that eh. Apart from the 35mm dropper and the carbon bar, not much difference. XX1 vs xtr, both RS1, raceface next sl crank vs xtr (point in favour of the pyga on that one) and then both have carbon rims... Apart from that and the SWAT system, there's just a case of sram vs shimano.If you have to ask. A s works is jot for you. Its all about the weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted June 6, 2015 Share If you have to ask. A s works is jot for you. Its all about the weight.No, I am genuinely curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoke101 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Not sure about that eh. Apart from the 35mm dropper and the carbon bar, not much difference. XX1 vs xtr, both RS1, raceface next sl crank vs xtr (point in favour of the pyga on that one) and then both have carbon rims... Apart from that and the SWAT system, there's just a case of sram vs shimano. Agreed, apart from the dropper and Brain inertia valves I would say the Pyga is better spec'd. XX1, Next SL Crank, KMC chain, Next carbon bar & seatpost are all lighter and better in my opinion.The Pyga frame and Rims aren't as light but are stronger than the Spez frame and Rovals. Weights should be around the same: kulhavy's bike with XX1 is 10.4kg and Pat's Pyga is currently 10.7kg but I'm not sure of bar, seatpost, saddle, stem and tyres. If memory serves the Epic RRP: is +- R130k Edit: Oh and that's running proper tyres not super lightweight S-Works fast track's. Edited June 6, 2015 by Spoke101 Hairy and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoke101 Posted June 6, 2015 Share No, "I am genuinely curious..." me to.Ignorance is bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted June 6, 2015 Share Agreed, apart from the dropper and Brain inertia valves I would say the Pyga is better spec'd. XX1, Next SL Crank, KMC chain, Next carbon bar & seatpost are all lighter and better in my opinion.The Pyga frame and Rims aren't as light but are stronger than the Spez frame and Rovals. Weights should be around the same: kulhavy's bike with XX1 is 10.4kg and Pat's Pyga is currently 10.7kg but I'm not sure of bar, seatpost, saddle, stem and tyres. If memory serves the Epic RRP: is +- R130k Edit: Oh and that's running proper tyres not super lightweight S-Works fast track's.So right there, that is me out of this argument. No proof to back that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted June 6, 2015 Share So right there, that is me out of this argument. No proof to back that.It's hardly an argument with the only informative comments and contributions coming from Spoke101 and El Capitan... Johny Bravo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted June 6, 2015 Share It's hardly an argument with the only informative comments and contributions coming from Spoke101 and El Capitan...True, but this was never a vs thread. The Pyga is great looking, BUT, none of us have ridden it. Where almost everyone has ridden a Epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted June 6, 2015 Share True, but this was never a vs thread. The Pyga is great looking, BUT, none of us have ridden it. Where almost everyone has ridden a Epic.I've ridden a Max. Never ridden an Epic. Colour me alternative. Edited June 6, 2015 by Ryanpmb RockCoach and Iwan Kemp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted June 6, 2015 Share I've ridden the Max. Never ridden an Epic. Colour me alternative.Thats quite alternative, not having ridden the most popular marathon bike in SA. Maybe go try it sometime, it really is quite nice. First available demo day I wil go ride the Pyga. For sure. Open minded. nonky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiriS Posted June 6, 2015 Share Means exactly what i said, s-works followers in the thousands, so theres more than enough people who can afford this bike. But changing the minds of those followers might be Pyga's first problem.Wasn't the word "copy" superfluous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted June 6, 2015 Share Thats quite alternative, not having ridden the most popular marathon bike in SA. Maybe go try it sometime, it really is quite nice. First available demo day I wil go ride the Pyga. For sure. Open minded.I'm sure it is. As are most of these expensive bikes. Back to PYGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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