Hacc Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Terribly sorry to hear about the persisting problem Hacc. MY HM went better than expected. I was hoping for around the 2Hr mark and ended up with a 1:52:49, 9 seconds slower than Birchwood last year but according to Garmin & Strava the course was 200m longer than HM and i sent myself a new PB by 1min 7Sec. I was totally finished though, threw up in my mouth round the 18km mark but luckily wasn't serious to i just "recycled" it and carried on pushing in the hope of that PB. I must say the organization was great and the marshalls were awesomeThat is wonderful news, Scott! Even though it is a flat route you still work the whole way. IMHO I prefer the undulating type of routes... The water points were ok, it felt like it was every 2.5km and not the usual 3.5km. My garmin also measured 21.3 - which is bad if you want to run a PB. The potholes - What can I say... well I guess there is nothing the race organisers can do about this. We saw 3 runners changing their cars' tyres close to the start. One runner that passed me said it felt like a steeplechase with all the potholes. This was my first Vaal race. Don't think I will do it again. I prefer Sasol.
CobusV Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I see Ferret did 1:40 on Vaal.... My wife and I opted for the monster on Saturday. It is closer to home, and I also decided a tough-ish 32 might be better for us than a flat 42 at this stage. Ferret69 and Hacc 2
Ferret69 Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I see Ferret did 1:40 on Vaal.... My wife and I opted for the monster on Saturday. It is closer to home, and I also decided a tough-ish 32 might be better for us than a flat 42 at this stage. Yep, spot on 1h40... Was pretty chuffed with that exactly 5 months after a Broken Femur.. Felt like a bloody long way after not running for a good 4 months at all.. but paced it well and got through pretty comfortably with no pain in the leg.. One more weeks training and then the Plates and screws come out Friday night... hoping that is going to do immediate wonders to the comfort and range of movement when running.. Hacc, Messier87, Stretch and 8 others 11
Hacc Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) Yep, spot on 1h40... Was pretty chuffed with that exactly 5 months after a Broken Femur.. Felt like a bloody long way after not running for a good 4 months at all.. but paced it well and got through pretty comfortably with no pain in the leg.. One more weeks training and then the Plates and screws come out Friday night... hoping that is going to do immediate wonders to the comfort and range of movement when running..That is just amazing!! Well done Ferret, I am sure you will just get stronger and even faster every day. What is your PB on a 21km? I see the winning time yesterday was 1:07 Edited March 6, 2017 by Hacc Ferret69 1
Ferret69 Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 That is just amazing!! Well done Ferret, I am sure you will just get stronger and even faster every day. What is your PB on a 21km? I see the winning time yesterday was 1:07 I ran 1h16.08 at Vaal 21km last year to finish 8th . Still my 21km PB Andrew Steer 1
Stretch Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I see the winning time yesterday was 1:07 Maritzburg 21 the winner strolled in at 1:04:34...almost 1 and a half minutes ahead of the next guy! still a far cry from the 58:23 WR! Hacc and Ferret69 2
Stretch Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I ran 1h16.08 at Vaal 21km last year to finish 8th . Still my 21km PB after comrades last year I said I wanted to race 21's this year because I have never really entered a racing 21 (the ones i choose seem to be hilly and at the beginning of the season) ...and then I entered comrades...... I got my 21 PB the other day which was my first lap of the pmb marathon....I still want a 90, and my PB is still 6 minutes off that
Ferret69 Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 after comrades last year I said I wanted to race 21's this year because I have never really entered a racing 21 (the ones i choose seem to be hilly and at the beginning of the season) ...and then I entered comrades...... I got my 21 PB the other day which was my first lap of the pmb marathon....I still want a 90, and my PB is still 6 minutes off that You have an easy Sub90 in you.. I ran mine last year in early March in the middle of 2150kms of Comrades training... I firmly believe speed training is still paramount to a fast comrades.. I did track training at least once a week all the way from January until the Tuesday 11 days before Race day. I save my Full Marathon PB attempts to October/November.. Stretch 1
Stretch Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) You have an easy Sub90 in you.. I ran mine last year in early March in the middle of 2150kms of Comrades training... I firmly believe speed training is still paramount to a fast comrades.. I did track training at least once a week all the way from January until the Tuesday 11 days before Race day. I save my Full Marathon PB attempts to October/November.. totally agree about that. I have been really annoyed this year as I have had these niggly injuries from Jan. As a result I have been neglecting my speedwork. I am hoping to be able to get back into the groove middle march and hit weekly track and intervals sessions from then on edit...I know I have the 90 in me..just about unleashing it! Edited March 6, 2017 by Stretch
CobusV Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 totally agree about that. I have been really annoyed this year as I have had these niggly injuries from Jan. As a result I have been neglecting my speedwork. I am hoping to be able to get back into the groove middle march and hit weekly track and intervals sessions from then on edit...I know I have the 90 in me..just about unleashing it! More or less the same with me. Started the year really well with two "quality" sessions per week (8km TT on Tuesdays and a faster 4km TT on Thurdays). Speed was improving steadily, but picked up a few niggles mid February and stopped completely the speed sessions. Now my speed is nowhere...
Stretch Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 running aint for sissies! Ed-Zulu, Lexx, candz1 and 3 others 6
Andrew Steer Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 How was Vaal guys? I started throwing up at 18kms and I decided to rather turn off for the 21km.It was such a humid day and I didn't feel good at all. Yesterday while waiting for my mates to finish the marathon I was totally gutted and felt very sorry for myself. This morning on my way to work I decided it is time to HTFU... starting today. The mind is more powerful than the body when running. I am not going to stop running and I will find the solution to my problem. Really sorry to hear that Hacc... you're really not having great luck at the moment!It was seriously hot yesterday, especially towards the end - definitely a little sun-kissed today.Hope you can get on top of your troubles asap My Vaal: I started with my wife and was always just planning to see how I went and make a call on route... First 10kms was pretty horrible and I resigned myself to just running the half - heart rate was a bit high for the effort I was putting in and I had a permanent stream of PND trickling down my gullet... was nasty. Then after the 10km I started to feel better, the nasal flow stopped and my heart rate settled down. Ran with the wife till about 19km and left her in the 4:30 bus as I was feeling a lot better. Ran well from there, caught and passed a lot of club mates and generally felt good. ITB's were both getting very tight around 30km, but managed to keep them in check with a couple stretches along the way. A bakkie tailgate is a lekker height for it I've discovered! Heading into the last 8km's I started to take very specific short walks to try avoid another Johnsons Crane leg explosion - it seemed to do the trick and although that slowed me down a little, I managed to run nicely all the way to the end. So a bit out of the blue, a marathon PB for me... two weeks rest clearly did the job. Running time was 4:15, so even with a nature break and some good stretches I was under my 4:20 seeding goal relatively easy. Great job Scott on the PB.And Ferret, what can I say... 1:40 on an easy comeback run Next goal for me... not to hobble around like a cripple the day after a Marathon fanievb, ScottCM, _David_ and 8 others 11
SwissVan Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Really sorry to hear that Hacc... you're really not having great luck at the moment!It was seriously hot yesterday, especially towards the end - definitely a little sun-kissed today.Hope you can get on top of your troubles asap My Vaal: I started with my wife and was always just planning to see how I went and make a call on route... First 10kms was pretty horrible and I resigned myself to just running the half - heart rate was a bit high for the effort I was putting in and I had a permanent stream of PND trickling down my gullet... was nasty. Then after the 10km I started to feel better, the nasal flow stopped and my heart rate settled down. Ran with the wife till about 19km and left her in the 4:30 bus as I was feeling a lot better. Ran well from there, caught and passed a lot of club mates and generally felt good. ITB's were both getting very tight around 30km, but managed to keep them in check with a couple stretches along the way. A bakkie tailgate is a lekker height for it I've discovered! Heading into the last 8km's I started to take very specific short walks to try avoid another Johnsons Crane leg explosion - it seemed to do the trick and although that slowed me down a little, I managed to run nicely all the way to the end. So a bit out of the blue, a marathon PB for me... two weeks rest clearly did the job. Running time was 4:15, so even with a nature break and some good stretches I was under my 4:20 seeding goal relatively easy. Great job Scott on the PB.And Ferret, what can I say... 1:40 on an easy comeback run Next goal for me... not to hobble around like a cripple the day after a MarathonNaaaice happy ending ???????? Andrew Steer 1
SwissVan Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Yesterday morning I had oats for breakfast. Yesterday was the first time I threw up while running. It was only water, no solids.I ate a racefood at 11km and drank rehydrate while passing the first two waterpoints. Maybe I should try eating something different instead of the racefood?I'm not familiar with race food.... what is it?Try experiment with eating something solid in small amounts from about 30 minutes before the start and then every 30 minutes during the race and drinking less than u normally do during the event (but make sure you are well hydrated at the start by drinking enough in the 3 days leading up to the event) Try it, can't get much worse can it .... ????
GemmerKat Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Was a bit late so only arrived after 8 at the vaal race.Just as I stopped WarriorRic was passing for his 2nd lap, singing along. What a cheerful guy. Unfortunately missed my first vaal due an injury, but spent some time under the gazebo with beer cheering my team mates. Was a very nice day unless you were running 42 in the heat....
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