Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Stretch]

Hi Stretch...my max running HR is 179. You hit the nail on the head....Cardio wise i was comfortable but my legs were sore and tired early on already.

The main cause i believe was the office move last week Wednesday through Friday.

 

 

I spent a lot more time than normal on my feet doing heavy physical work. My whole body was stiff and sore on Thursday evening. ...clearly an office jock and not used to so much physical work. Definitely need to make a plan and do some strength work...

 

cool thanks for that Swiss - you definitely have an easy sub 4 in you then

[SwissVan]

cool thanks for that Swiss - you definitely have an easy sub 4 in you then

 

Only if i do another maraFUN and there are none on the horizon.... i'm cured....

[Hacc]

Do you guys run a marathon with an HR monitor? I normally use my HR monitor for 21km or less. It is just too uncomfortable.

[shaper]

Do you guys run a marathon with an HR monitor? I normally use my HR monitor for 21km or less. It is just too uncomfortable.

I have a Mio wrist HRM which I use for running.  http://www.mioglobal.co.za/product/mio-link/

 

The chest strap HRM I find both uncomfortable and restrictive with my breathing, so only wear that when cycling.

[Hacc]

I have a Mio wrist HRM which I use for running.  http://www.mioglobal.co.za/product/mio-link/

 

The chest strap HRM I find both uncomfortable and restrictive with my breathing, so only wear that when cycling.

Thank you Shaper, looks like something I can use.

[SwissVan]

Do you guys run a marathon with an HR monitor? I normally use my HR monitor for 21km or less. It is just too uncomfortable.

Yes always wear it no problems with comfort, it's one of those soft polar straps really comfortable.

[Stretch]

I have a Mio wrist HRM which I use for running.  http://www.mioglobal.co.za/product/mio-link/

 

The chest strap HRM I find both uncomfortable and restrictive with my breathing, so only wear that when cycling.

 

you obviously have to charge that. I want one of these - https://www.amazon.com/Scosche-RHYTHM-Heart-Monitor-Armband/dp/B00JQHTJS2

 

But i run with a hrm for most things except comrades - will run OMTOM with one

[shaper]

Thank you Shaper, looks like something I can use.

Have used for over a year without issue and is paired with my Fenix3 and before that my 920XT.  If I have to replace my Fenix3 will either go Fenix3 HR or 735XT which have the optical HRM built into the watch

[shaper]

you obviously have to charge that. I want one of these - https://www.amazon.com/Scosche-RHYTHM-Heart-Monitor-Armband/dp/B00JQHTJS2

 

But i run with a hrm for most things except comrades - will run OMTOM with one

Yes has to be charged, after every run I just place it in the charging cradle until I next use it.  I think battery life is around 6-8hrs which is fine for up to Marathons and have used it in some 70.3 triathlons for the cycling and running legs.  There are a few wrist based HRM monitors on the market similar.

[SeaBee]

I'm with Swiss on this. Got used to wearing one when cycling and just kept wearing one when running. Also, I am now on Suunto strap which is also really nice - soft and comfortable.

[Stretch]

I'm with Swiss on this. Got used to wearing one when cycling and just kept wearing one when running. Also, I am now on Suunto strap which is also really nice - soft and comfortable.

 

the new garmin straps are very light and comfortable..didnt even notice it on my marathon. My old Garmin strap used to chafe, so they have obviously paid attention to that

[ScottCM]

The problem i have with the garmin strap is that if you wear thermal tops in winter the compression seems to not let the device work. The other thing is that will all three models of Garmin straps i have once it gets very wet from sweat it goes bonkers. 

 

Hence why my desire to get something else but what, that is the question. 

Mio looks good , Scosche looks impressive but not sure of the forearm positioning. 

Garmin watch with Elevate is an option but the accuracy of the Mio and scosche seems to be better, plus my 920XT is way to young to justify an upgrade. 

[Jackes]

Yes always wear it no problems with comfort, it's one of those soft polar straps really comfortable.

 

+1, I don't even know I have mine on, it does not bother at all.   Not the new soft garmin strap, but even the old bigger plastic version of garmin did not bother me at all as well...

[Jackes]

But i run with a hrm for most things except comrades - will run OMTOM with one

 

Is that not the one where you want to have one on?   To be able to see your heart rate if something might go terribly wrong, to know what the heart situation is at least.    Well, perhaps not you racing snake guys, but the rest of us?   lol

[Stretch]

Is that not the one where you want to have one on?   To be able to see your heart rate if something might go terribly wrong, to know what the heart situation is at least.    Well, perhaps not you racing snake guys, but the rest of us?   lol

lol..maybe...but I have always thought it was not worth the risk of it irritating...and obviously uses up precious battery life...but that wont be a problem next year..so might even wear it

[Tubehunter]

Howzeeet crew,

 

Don't mean to change the current strap talk but through some of the proper recovery solutions I've been researching I stumbled on this and thought it may be useful for those of you adding mileage in the run up to the big day. (The pun is deliberate...hehe) It's from some chap in the US called Jason Fitzgerald who seems to know his stuff and puts out a useful amount of info! This is his personal routine that has taken him 12 years to develop.

 

 

When you finish running, the real recovery starts. Here is my routine that I stick to for every long run:

1. Within 10 minutes of stopping, I make sure to have a lot of protein and simple sugars. I have an iron stomach so I like a glass of chocolate milk with a protein scoop (my favorite running recovery supplement) and a piece of fruit.
2. Within 30 minutes of finishing, I’ll have at least 3 full glasses of water. This is so important if it’s hot out. I also do 10-15 minutes of light strength exercises and drills – dynamic stretching helps me avoid getting too tight.
3. Within 45-60 minutes, I have a full meal focusing on protein, low GI (glycemic index) carbs, and healthy fats like olive oil or avocado. I try to eat a lot of veggies in this meal to reduce inflammation and get my vitamins. American record holder in the half-marathoner Ryan hall knows the importance of vegetables for recovery. One of his latest tweets on twitter (@RyanHall3) read “Kale, spinach, ginger, carrot, beet juice to kick off recovery after a HARD 23 miler.” He knows his stuff.
4. Within 90 minutes, I take a shower, continue drinking water, and start winding down. This is more of a mental recovery period for me.
5. After 2 hours, I take a 1.5-2 hour nap. Ryan Hall calls his naps “business meetings” because they are part of his job to get faster. This is when your body starts to really repair the damage from your hard workout or long run. Take this seriously!
6. After the nap, I have some green tea or coffee. Caffeine speeds recovery and both are perfect running recovery drinks.  Next I’ll go for a 10 minute easy walk or do some light drills to loosen up.

You might have noticed that I don’t ice bath. I used to, but I’ve read some recent research that is showing it’s counter-productive. This could be another post entirely, so I’ll keep it brief: you exercise to put stress on your body so that it responds with adaptation. Then you get stronger and faster.

Ice baths reduce that adaptation because they prevent a lot of the muscle damage that’s actually a good thing. When ice baths prevent the damage, they’re also preventing your body from responding to that damage. And then you stay the same speed. Now, who wants that?!

 

(It's info from this page: http://strengthrunning.com/2010/08/running-recovery/)