eddy Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Ok boys and girls...be prepared for a lecture. After the 2 weeks, your palate adjusts and you start noticing amazing flavours that are not sweet related. So where before you had sour, salty, bitter and sweet. Now sour, salty and bitter things start tasting better and more pleasing to the palate. You mean that beer and biltong start tasting EVEN better ????????
Eldron Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 fair enough I see you say "normal quantities". I guess the question should be what is normal. Is the odd shnarff of cocaine harmful? I'm talking 'normal quantities' obviously. I'm not sure. What I am sure about is that I'd rather eat 40 teaspoons a day of sugar than 40 teaspoons a day of cocaine.
SCD Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 One thing that constantly pops up in these "diets" is extremism.Me - I'm not a big fan of extremism. I don't think cutting out anything 100% is "good" for you.My eating spectrum has two ends - super healthy but mega grumpy and super happy but mega unhealthy.On the SHMG (super healthy mega grumpy) end are vegetables, lean meat, fruit, no sugar, no excessive fats, no empty calories. Really good for you but I's slit my wrists after 3 months at this end of the spectrum.On the SHMU (super happy mega unhealthy) end are crumpets, muffins, chocolate, sugar, sugar, cake, coke etc. If I lived on this end of the specturm for 3 months I'd be obese and useless.One cannot live on either end of the spectrum - the right place is somewhere in the middle. I shift from the middle closer to each end depending on the time of year, injury, racing etc. Its a lifestyle really - when I'm training hard for a specfic goal the junk food seems to be less appealing because I know it's slowing me down - when I'm injured or between training programmes I let go and have some fun with food.As I always say - some food is good for your body and some food is good for your soul.Balance :-) The "feeding the soul" thing is an interesting point that often is brought up. in the past more with smokers and now likewise in the sugar discussion. It shows that whatever you do is making you feel that something is missing that you grave and that you give to yourself every now and then.That graving however has gone away with us. No forcing required and no grumpiness induced...
cat-i Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 yes. To me, the substitution of xylitol for sugar won't get me there. I'll still be feeding that sweet tooth. Cake with xylitol is still cake. It doesn't magically get better... Different people may have gotten different messages out of the sugar movie. What I got out of it was what is wrong with sugar - that it spikes your insulin levels and thereby causing a whole chain reaction of bad things, that it's addictive, that it's bad for your teeth and that we eat way too much of it. To me, cutting out sugar doesn't mean cutting out all sweet things, but rather all sucrose and most fructose, and not to add any. It doesn't mean not having an orange every now and again - or something sweet in the form of an energy bar with just nuts and berries, or (home-made, so I know what's in it) chocolate brownies made with nuts, cocoa, butter, almond flour and xylitol. Empty calories, maybe, but no carbs. For me it's not a religion or a food-nazi-thing, but rather an attempt to keep the insulin levels as level as possible. Someone else might have gotten a completely different message from the same movie.
Grey Hubs Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I think the Sugar movie should be taken with a pinch of salt
eddy Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Dunno.... I do use a carb based drink for riding. Oh, and i will eat fruit while riding as well. I was given the tip to buy Woolies dates, remove the pips and put an almond inside as a natural on-the-bike energy snack. I have been using for long rides recently and it works well for me, and if I pop a salted almond in, it tastes even better on the bike. Give it a bash
cat-i Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I think the Sugar movie should be taken with a pinch of salt Whahaha there was a few times right at the beginning when I thought the guy was making sweeping statements. Also, tracking his own blood and other measurements is not really scientific - it's one case and doesn't prove anything. But that movie, in conjunction with some of prof Noake's theories, certainly is food for thought ... and the good prof DID say in his book that not ALL people would benefit from LCHF (and by implication, cutting out sugar) - he's very specific about some indicators that may make people more or less susceptible to insulin spikes - and that may benefit from his diet. But I think the sugar movie did show that excessive sugar is not good.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 But I think the sugar movie did show that excessive sugar is not good. yeah, and that there's a SHARTLOAD of sugar in supposedly healthy food.
Wayne Potgieter Posted September 1, 2015 Author Posted September 1, 2015 Whahaha there was a few times right at the beginning when I thought the guy was making sweeping statements. Also, tracking his own blood and other measurements is not really scientific - it's one case and doesn't prove anything. But that movie, in conjunction with some of prof Noake's theories, certainly is food for thought ... and the good prof DID say in his book that not ALL people would benefit from LCHF (and by implication, cutting out sugar) - he's very specific about some indicators that may make people more or less susceptible to insulin spikes - and that may benefit from his diet. But I think the sugar movie did show that excessive sugar is not good. For me, it showed how much sugar is hidden in "healthy foods" If i had to take 1 thing away from that movie, it is this... Never trust someone/somecompany that has a financial benefit in dispensing advice. rather educate myself more about what i am putting in my body and through trial and error try lead a sustainable and healthier lifestyle.
Wayne Potgieter Posted September 1, 2015 Author Posted September 1, 2015 yeah, and that there's a SHARTLOAD of sugar in supposedly healthy food. snap
Beesrib Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I often cut my sugar intake, but then some days I just really need something sweet. Today so far, I have only had one sugar in my first cuppa of the day. So far so good
V12man Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I was given the tip to buy Woolies dates, remove the pips and put an almond inside as a natural on-the-bike energy snack. I have been using for long rides recently and it works well for me, and if I pop a salted almond in, it tastes even better on the bike. Give it a bashI am going to HAVE to make you a proper pb&j snack...... Strawberry or Apricot?
Raydek Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 The "feeding the soul" thing is an interesting point that often is brought up. in the past more with smokers and now likewise in the sugar discussion. It shows that whatever you do is making you feel that something is missing that you grave and that you give to yourself every now and then.That graving however has gone away with us. No forcing required and no grumpiness induced... I see what you mean and have never really thought about it like that... I do think for me though that it isn't a craving that I am feeding when I 'feed my soul', merely just enjoying the food, I could happily go without it.. Edit: Reading that again, it sounds like I'm feeding a craving.. Dammit.
Wayne Potgieter Posted September 1, 2015 Author Posted September 1, 2015 Wowzers....do i miss peanut butter. I havent had in 2 years. Only because my daughter is allergic to peanuts so we no longer buy it....
eddy Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I am going to HAVE to make you a proper pb&j snack...... Strawberry or Apricot? Apricot, but it gets messy..
eddy Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Wowzers....do i miss peanut butter. I havent had in 2 years. Only because my daughter is allergic to peanuts so we no longer buy it.... There is a lot of sugar (and added salt) in most peanut butters, but my daughter is Vegan and makes me proper, healthy, no additive PB. On a slice of whole wheat toast with a nice greenish banana and bacon.......
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