What's tougher TDF or cape epic?

[W@nna-BE]

I was lucky enough to do epic last year.

I believe both events are the ultimate in their disciplines, I would love the chance to do the TDF. Each event will have their own challenges and advantages, like the massive climbs in TDF and the horribly technical descents at epic where even suaser has to walk, the momentum of the peloton vs the deep sand where riding is almost impossible etc etc. my opinion is purely based on the time factor, I love nothing more then to ride my bike but to race at full tilt for 20 odd days is going to be epic lol

 

So in my opinion the TDF is tougher, if it was 8 days the Epic would take the cake. Spanner in the works would come in if you had a 20 odd day Epic, then I would say the Epic with no contest.

[gummibear]

There are harder and more grueling mtb races than Epic.

 

For road races TdF is the pinnacle for the Pro's.

[Jewbacca]

Sorry but this is laughable

[CAAD4]

So one week, versus 3? Seriously?

[SwissVan]

There are harder and more grueling mtb races than Epic.

For road races TdF is the pinnacle for the Pro's.

Heres an idea, I'm surprised no one suggested it yet

Change the CE to a 3 week event

[gummibear]

Google

 

Race Across America...RAAM

 

The Tour Devide

 

La Ruta in Costa Rica

 

The Trans Py in Spain.

 

Yak Attack in Nepal

 

Crocodile Trophy in Australia

 

Trans Portugal

[gummibear]

Heres an idea, I'm surprised no one suggested it yet

Change the CE to a 3 week event

...and triple the entry fee    

[DIPSLICK]

Ahhhh please clearly non have you have heard of THE FAST ONE,,,,

 

 

 

FROM what I have seen and heard,,,trans portugal is on another level, go check the climbing makes epic look like the fast one

[Patchelicious]

Personally I think the Giro is the toughest ????????

I think you are right, when it comes to the route.

 

I do however think the general pace at TdF is harder simply because the guys send more top riders there.

[Gen]

I think you are right, when it comes to the route.

 

I do however think the general pace at TdF is harder simply because the guys send more top riders there.

Good point

[Brother Brett]

How is toughness measured?

 

Time in the saddle?

Watts over time?

Working heart rate?

Mental focus?

 

Tough question

[SwissVan]

No matter which sport.... There is always a harder event somewhere.

The epic used to say it was a pro level (tough) challenge open to anyone

 

Well soon the CE will be the worlds toughest race for the average mountain biker, just because of the steep entry fee

[Patchelicious]

This opens the thought, why doesn't someone create an Amateur TdF, ( a proper one, not a half assed 10 day thing) allowing us knobhead wannabes to go give it a bash like those amateurs at the Epic....

[Brother Brett]

It's seems the first 80kms in any tdf stage apart from TT and Mountains are spent drafting, chatting etc. where the epic is usually full gas from the start everyday. Having said all that if joe soap participated in each with a good base fitness in each I would say he's got less chance of completing the tdf. (My opinion)

[gummibear]

This opens the thought, why doesn't someone create an Amateur TdF, ( a proper one, not a half assed 10 day thing) allowing us knobhead wannabes to go give it a bash like those amateurs at the Epic....

Would cost a bucket loAd of cash but sure if there's a demand it might happen.

 

Just no dope testing for the riders though[emoji10][emoji10]

[the nerd]

It's seems the first 80kms in any tdf stage apart from TT and Mountains are spent drafting, chatting etc. where the epic is usually full gas from the start everyday. Having said all that if joe soap participated in each with a good base fitness in each I would say he's got less chance of completing the tdf. (My opinion)

 

The first 80kms of an epic stage are the stage.... 

 

The first 80km of a TDF stage is maybe half way, at double the speed.