Kalahari Vegmot Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 This is not so much a maintenance question but does entail it. We are looking at getting an automatic as a second car but cannot decide which automatic is best. We have seen that majority are CVT or Semi Auto with few DSG out there. looking at the cons, the CVT can have a drone due the revs being kept fairly constant and the Semi may not always change gears when it needs to or get stuck in a gear and expensive to fix if it goes wrong. Reliability seems pretty ok for most but not 100% on this. Anyone got any experience with different automatics and whats best?Why not a stick? Anyway, our DSG has been faultless for 160K km's. Pleasure to drive. Not a fan of cvt's...the ones I've been in anyway(never driven one). Great for old people's cars... The dsg is better imo. You never have to wait for the gears to change, and they tend to be morefuel efficient.
gazzacpt Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Don't get the DSG 1.4TSi combo if plan on keeping it for long. They seem to have the most problems. The 2.0l and DSG seems to play well together 200 000km on some of them and not even a clutch pack replacement. The 1.4's seem to eat a clutch pack at about 70 000 - 100 000km. CVT's are great but the ones from Nissan seem to die at just over 100 000km. Audis ones seem better but is moer expensive if valve bodies or the steel drive belt/chain goes. Toyotas CVTs overheated. For long term ownership a proper Auto or proper manual 'box is what I go for. If I'm only keeping it for 5-7 years DSG baby.Don't skip gearbox fluid changes and on the most part they last the life of the car. Sent from my SM-A510F using Tapatalk
Long Wheel Base Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 This is not so much a maintenance question but does entail it. We are looking at getting an automatic as a second car but cannot decide which automatic is best. We have seen that majority are CVT or Semi Auto with few DSG out there. looking at the cons, the CVT can have a drone due the revs being kept fairly constant and the Semi may not always change gears when it needs to or get stuck in a gear and expensive to fix if it goes wrong. Reliability seems pretty ok for most but not 100% on this. Anyone got any experience with different automatics and whats best?DSG is lekker BUT I wouldn't touch it out of warranty. My wife had an A3 sportback with DSG. The mechatron(brain of the gearbox) died after about 50 000km. Left us on the side of the road with a box of neutrals. Luckily AUDI paid as it was still under warranty, I saw the invoice and lets say I wouldn't have been able to pay. The dual clutches also didn't last long, They went shortly after the new mechatron. Other than that it was awesome to drive. Sport mode with the paddle shifters was just a gimmic TBH. Used it plenty when she first got the car, but the novelty wore off. Otherwise when in sport mode I would just let it change gears itself. Sport mode was heavy on tyres and fuel
Kalahari Vegmot Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 DSG is lekker BUT I wouldn't touch it out of warranty. My wife had an A3 sportback with DSG. The mechatron(brain of the gearbox) died after about 50 000km. Left us on the side of the road with a box of neutrals. Luckily AUDI paid as it was still under warranty, I saw the invoice and lets say I wouldn't have been able to pay. The dual clutches also didn't last long, They went shortly after the new mechatron. Other than that it was awesome to drive. Sport mode with the paddle shifters was just a gimmic TBH. Used it plenty when she first got the car, but the novelty wore off. Otherwise when in sport mode I would just let it change gears itself. Sport mode was heavy on tyres and fuel Would it perhaps be possible that the driving style had anything to do with this 'unreliability':whistling: Serious question. Ours gets driven really nice, and very seldom in sport. This might play a role...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Regular auto FTW. Manual FTW. DSG & CVT = expensive when things go boom.
Blokman Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 I got a very clean lower mileage Gen 1 CRV, 2.0L. Incredible how well made they are, some crazy voodoo in Hondas, like the seat fabric that never tears and hardly wears, engines at 300k that can be near as smooth as the day they were bought. The Gen 1 use the B series engines, which were very widely used across Ballades and Civics etc, aftermarket spares are cheap and plentiful and they are also easy to work on. Actually a hubber mentioned how great the Gen 1 CRV's are so I went and did some research and then hunted for a nice one for months, they still sell for pretty high prices considering they are coming on 20yrs old.I wonder if that was me? I had one that I bought with 180 000 kms on the clock. I took it up to 500 000 before selling. Those seats just didn't wear.My wife now drives a 2013 2.0 litre . The new shape. Spares, I think they are expensive. But that is a general problem with " genuine " parts. I am lucky to have a mechanic that trained at Merc and Honda to work on mine out of warranty. He also knows when to stick with the real thing or not. Timing belt for instance - always original.Not a sexy car at all I agree . But it will seldom, if ever let you down.
Long Wheel Base Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Would it perhaps be possible that the driving style had anything to do with this 'unreliability':whistling: Serious question. Ours gets driven really nice, and very seldom in sport. This might play a role...Could very well be the case, how else are you meant to drive it? Have you heard the noise it makes when it changes gear in an underground parking lot? Also if you switch the ESP off and gooi sport on a smooth cement floor its really good fun. Our's was an S-Line with sports package, The exhaust was a little bit less restrictive than standard but not as loud as a GTI or S3. Vrrrr Phaaa
AlanD Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Regular auto FTW. Manual FTW. DSG & CVT = expensive when things go boom.By regular auto, are we talking about the semi auto/auto clutch manual?
Kalahari Vegmot Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 By regular auto, are we talking about the semi auto/auto clutch manual?He is probably talking about a torque converter auto, which is what a 'regular auto' usually is.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 I'm not sure what a 'semi-auto' is. He is probably talking about a torque converter auto, which is what a 'regular auto' usually is. By regular auto, are we talking about the semi auto/auto clutch manual?No, see above. Torque converter auto FTW. IE those ones that are standard fare in yank-land. And on old bimmers, mercs and so on. No semi-auto claptrap. Manual or Auto. The end.
Kalahari Vegmot Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Could very well be the case, how else are you meant to drive it? Have you heard the noise it makes when it changes gear in an underground parking lot? Also if you switch the ESP off and gooi sport on a smooth cement floor its really good fun. Our's was an S-Line with sports package, The exhaust was a little bit less restrictive than standard but not as loud as a GTI or S3. Vrrrr PhaaaNot sure how else. But using the launch control excessively and having a jol with any car is usually not good for it... But then again, Audi knows that's what people are going to do with the sportier models.
Kalahari Vegmot Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Alan, what cars are you looking at?
AlanD Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Alan, what cars are you looking at?Well there the thing, every-time we find a car that we like that seems to have a good review (non are perfect) it either has a semi-auto or a CVT and a few like the Seat and VW have DSG. So if all those are costly and not reliable, the traditional (torque converter) auto is rare as hardly any cars we look at have it so hence i'm rather frustrated now. The reason for the auto is because...why not? Traffic can be a nightmare and so this makes things a little easier and also easier for the wife to drive as parking is tight here and its rather hilly so it will help her. We have a manual Ford Fiesta 2009 at the moment and its a great little car but we need a second car an want something a little bigger as we have two kids. An SUV is a little out our budget and most are heavy on fuel and CO2 but have good boot space. So we are thinking af a larger hatch back like a Ford Focus where the boot is slightly bigger and if we need more space for lets say a holiday then we thinking of roof rails and fitting a box.
Kalahari Vegmot Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Well there the thing, every-time we find a car that we like that seems to have a good review (non are perfect) it either has a semi-auto or a CVT and a few like the Seat and VW have DSG. So if all those are costly and not reliable, the traditional (torque converter) auto is rare as hardly any cars we look at have it so hence i'm rather frustrated now. The reason for the auto is because...why not? Traffic can be a nightmare and so this makes things a little easier and also easier for the wife to drive as parking is tight here and its rather hilly so it will help her. We have a manual Ford Fiesta 2009 at the moment and its a great little car but we need a second car an want something a little bigger as we have two kids. An SUV is a little out our budget and most are heavy on fuel and CO2 but have good boot space. So we are thinking af a larger hatch back like a Ford Focus where the boot is slightly bigger and if we need more space for lets say a holiday then we thinking of roof rails and fitting a box.New or used?
PhilipV Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 By regular auto, are we talking about the semi auto/auto clutch manual?Torque Converter aka Oupa Gearbox.
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