Anti-Doping Rule Violation: Tyronne White

[Spoke101]

If that is the case that is pretty much medical malpractice. An allegation like that against a medical practitioner or a hospital is a major deal in my view.

I agree, he even offered to show me "proof" in the form of a letter from the Doc which he was carrying in his pocket.

[andydude]

If that is the case that is pretty much medical malpractice. An allegation like that against a medical practitioner or a hospital is a major deal in my view.

It brings in another interesting question, and raised with all the recent TUEs released by the russian hackers: should you be racing if you are that sick that you need medicine?

 

Not aimed at Ty or anyone specific, just asking questions.

[BigDL]

I agree, he even offered to show me "proof" in the form of a letter from the Doc which he was carrying in his pocket.

So, did you look at the proof?

[Spoke101]

So, did you look at the proof?

Nope, was busy riding my bike and to be honest I couldn't be bothered. Sick and tired of the same record being played over and over.

 

Ty is taking it further with lawyers from what I was told but only time will tell.

[Patchelicious]

So, did you look at the proof?

If they have a letter, you can bet your bottom dollar it will be presented at an appeal.

 

Spokes opinion on it won't amount for much.

[Spoke101]

If they have a letter, you can bet your bottom dollar it will be presented at an appeal.

 

Spokes opinion on it won't amount for much.

 

I'm also of the opinion that any one can draw up a letter and sign it, a piece of paper means noting to me, I need to hear if from the doc himself.

[Patchelicious]

I'm also of the opinion that any one can draw up a letter and sign it, a piece of paper means noting to me, I need to hear if from the doc himself.

The appeals committee will have the same stance, so I am pretty sure they will present something a bit more substantial than some random "letter".

 

It would need to be something like a sworn affidavit signed by the doc.

 

And in all honesty, they don't need to convince you, they need to convince the appeals committee.

[eddy]

I need to hear if from the doc himself.

You are easy to satisfy.

 

I want to see a malpractice conviction before the HSPC and a successful claim in delict before I even start listening to a doper's story.

[Spoke101]

You are easy to satisfy.

 

I want to see a malpractice conviction before the HSPC and a successful claim in delict before I even start listening to a doper's story.

Well on that point apparently they are not seeking any financial remuneration or legal case against anyone. Only for his name to be cleared but have spent a lot of money fighting this already. 

[Patchelicious]

You are easy to satisfy.

 

I want to see a malpractice conviction before the HSPC and a successful claim in delict before I even start listening to a doper's story.

Like Daryls pharmacist?

[eddy]

Well on that point apparently they are not seeking any financial remuneration or legal case against anyone. Only for his name to be cleared but have spent a lot of money fighting this already.

 

To me that sounds like the Guptas only wanting their bank accounts back but are not prepared to seek the court's assistance and for the same reason; they don't want their version subjected to scrutiny and cross examination.

 

If a professional's negligence cost me 18 months of a short sportsman's career and my good reputation for ever, I can see only one reason NOT to seek redress and that is because I don't want my story ridiculed in the open.

[Barend de Arend]

It brings in another interesting question, and raised with all the recent TUEs released by the russian hackers: should you be racing if you are that sick that you need medicine?

 

Not aimed at Ty or anyone specific, just asking questions.

 

Devil's advocate: If you need medicine, should you just sit on the couch and watch TV?  Wait, you're not allowed the watch TV, because the medication you're on are eye drops.

 

Where do you draw the line?  When are you allowed to live a life?

[jcza]

Devil's advocate: If you need medicine, should you just sit on the couch and watch TV? Wait, you're not allowed the watch TV, because the medication you're on are eye drops.

 

Where do you draw the line? When are you allowed to live a life?

Read the MPCC guidelines. Membership is voluntary and there's not many WT teams left mainly because it doesn't suit them. Riders are withdrawn from racing when sick or when they fail health checks. Astana was the most recent team to withdraw last year.

 

 

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[Edition 507]

The human kind?

As opposed to the Veterinarian kind? Are they cost saving by using the local Vet in the medical tent?

[andydude]

 

 

Devil's advocate: If you need medicine, should you just sit on the couch and watch TV? Wait, you're not allowed the watch TV, because the medication you're on are eye drops.

 

Where do you draw the line? When are you allowed to live a life?

If you belong to a professional TV watching sport organisation and their rules forbid any medicine (I guess eye drops for them would be like epo for cyclists!) then yes, you shouldn't.

 

But your example is not really comparing apples with them apples?!

[Barend de Arend]

If you belong to a professional TV watching sport organisation and their rules forbid any medicine (I guess eye drops for them would be like epo for cyclists!) then yes, you shouldn't.

 

But your example is not really comparing apples with them apples?!

 

I'm trying to illustrate that

• there are illnesses that need treatment
• the point of any treatment is to bring you back to normal (not supernormal) -- or as normal as possible.  You should be able to live a normal life.
• the sport has rules for treating illnesses (TUEs)