Robo Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Might be a dumb question....if you convert PPA seeding to Winter league where about will you put CAT3?
Skubarra Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Might be a dumb question....if you convert PPA seeding to Winter league where about will you put CAT3? https://www.wpcycling.com/road-news/autumn-and-winter-league-2016-criteria/
andydude Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 I have no facts, hence my query.But what you said makes sense, thanks for clearing up! All can be avoided if we have strength based CATS, im going to support the WPCA league this winter! Seems like they have a winning combo at the momentAt the journey for sight there were 7 subvets and yesterday 15 (that finished on racetec). Shocking!
Americo Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Hey guys I uploaded the video of the race on Youtube. I started on D group I suggest you to watch vissershok and the last 3km. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rumGgBmBsc
Pure Savage Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Race report for the Tour de PPA! https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/articles/ride-reports/pure-savage-race-report-tour-de-ppa-r6198?source=sidebar Enjoy!
Pure Savage Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Hey guys I uploaded the video of the race on Youtube. I started on D group Anyone else just watch Vissershoek? So cool seeing data over video. See you crank out a very low cadence, max 70! Also do you ride by power, you managed to keep it around 300w. wont lie, was screaming for you to catch the group at the top!
Americo Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Anyone else just watch Vissershoek? So cool seeing data over video. See you crank out a very low cadence, max 70! Also do you ride by power, you managed to keep it around 300w. wont lie, was screaming for you to catch the group at the top!Hahahah you know what funny? I realized that I was on Visserhoek only towards the end. It looked completely different from the 99er,hard yes but for sure shorter. For once I wasn't looking at my Garmin and the only think I had in mind it was not to be dropped. I'm glad that the guys in front didn't push the hammer and waited for the group the reach then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
LeoKnight Posted February 28, 2017 Author Posted February 28, 2017 Guilty, watched the start and Vissershok... those are some strong riders
samson99 Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 Hey guys I uploaded the video of the race on Youtube. I started on D group I suggest you to watch vissershok and the last 3km. That idiot on the LHS at 1:20:02 changing a flat is me.
Mamil Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 Watching snippets of this makes me want to go riding. THink I must go sign up for the Malmesbury sportif ... Hey guys I uploaded the video of the race on Youtube. I started on D groupI suggest you to watch vissershok and the last 3km.
Halfdoesyn Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 Hey guys I uploaded the video of the race on Youtube. I started on D group I suggest you to watch vissershok and the last 3km. Joh, it's hectic up front! Nice video.
LeoKnight Posted March 1, 2017 Author Posted March 1, 2017 Post by the PPA: The PPA League had its challenges this year and we are certainly taking away a lot of lessons from it. It was unfortunate that some issues were only raised after Event 4, outside of the official channels, as specified by the league rules. The way I see it, all riders and affiliated personnel had the opportunity to study the league rules, the league format and raise any objections before paying the league fee and crossing the start line of the first league event in October 2016. PPA had the league rules and format signed off by Western Cape Cycling, as per the channels of reporting recommended to us by CSA. In other words, we asked CSA in a meeting in 2015 with whom we should engage on all matters and we were instructed to deal with WC Cycling. WC Cycling would then disseminate information to the regional bodies, again as per the agreement with CSA. PPA is the League organiser and the Commissaires are appointed to enforce the rules consistently and fairly. The issues that arose after Event 4 were due to the lack of consistent rule enforcement by the Commissaires. This was confirmed and accepted by Denis Human and Mike Bradley, both of whom I met with during the SA Road Champs to discuss the matters raised with them.In addition, had the issues that led to the re-allocation of riders to new categories after Event 4 been brought to our attention at, or prior to, the start of the league, I am confident that we could have sorted this out with CSA within hours. Our league rules made allowance for the league running from 2016 into 2017 and for riders to remain in their categories, and this was accepted as such by all before the league started.What happened before the Tour de PPA was most unfortunate, and was not a decision made by PPA. The Commissaires contacted the office late on Friday afternoon before the event, asking us to make category changes. We had to let the riders know, but in hindsight, the Commissaires should have sent the email to the riders, not PPA. And the complainant should have raised the issue in January 2017 when licenses had to be renewed in time for the League event No.4 ,or at the start of the league. Why wait until the end of the League?What lessons has PPA learnt from this League, and what will we implement going forward?We will not organise another League to span 2 calendar years. The next League, if it happens, will start and finish in (Spring) 2017. If there are not enough funrides that could take a racing element, additional events like circuit racing, hill climbs and/or time trials will be added to ensure that there are enough events to run a proper League in the same year. If Category racing is now preferred (over age group riding) by the majority of riders, we will implement it. The Commissaires and CSA will administer the rules consistently from the first event to the last. We will compile a Code of Conduct that will govern all riders, as well as managers and officials.Before the middle of the year, we will convene a League workshop. We will ask riders, managers and officials to each elect a representative that will join us around the table to put together a format that is agreed to by the majority.In the meantime, I would ask that league participants and interested PPA members please send us your comments and suggestions, in preparation for the workshop. Please add your contact details, in case we need to refer back to you for clarification. Send all emails to: leagues@pedalpower.org.zaLet’s all work together on getting it right.Yours in cyclingRobert EDIT: added two paragraphs at the start
Pure Savage Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 Post by the PPA:The issues that arose after Event 4 were due to the lack of consistent rule enforcement by the Commissaires. This was confirmed and accepted by Denis Human and Mike Bradley, both of whom I met with during the SA Road Champs to discuss the matters raised with them.In addition, had the issues that led to the re-allocation of riders to new categories after Event 4 been brought to our attention at, or prior to, the start of the league, I am confident that we could have sorted this out with CSA within hours. Our league rules made allowance for the league running from 2016 into 2017 and for riders to remain in their categories, and this was accepted as such by all before the league started.What happened before the Tour de PPA was most unfortunate, and was not a decision made by PPA. The Commissaires contacted the office late on Friday afternoon before the event, asking us to make category changes. We had to let the riders know, but in hindsight, the Commissaires should have sent the email to the riders, not PPA. And the complainant should have raised the issue in January 2017 when licenses had to be renewed in time for the League event No.4 ,or at the start of the league. Why wait until the end of the League?What lessons has PPA learnt from this League, and what will we implement going forward?We will not organise another League to span 2 calendar years. The next League, if it happens, will start and finish in (Spring) 2017.If there are not enough funrides that could take a racing element, additional events like circuit racing, hill climbs and/or time trials will be added to ensure that there are enough events to run a proper League in the same year.If Category racing is now preferred (over age group riding) by the majority of riders, we will implement it.The Commissaires and CSA will administer the rules consistently from the first event to the last.We will compile a Code of Conduct that will govern all riders, as well as managers and officials.Before the middle of the year, we will convene a League workshop. We will ask riders, managers and officials to each elect a representative that will join us around the table to put together a format that is agreed to by the majority.In the meantime, I would ask that league participants and interested PPA members please send us your comments and suggestions, in preparation for the workshop. Please add your contact details, in case we need to refer back to you for clarification. Send all emails to: leagues@pedalpower.org.zaLet’s all work together on getting it right.Yours in cyclingRobertWhat issue arose?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
LeoKnight Posted March 1, 2017 Author Posted March 1, 2017 What issue arose?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Had to do with the disqualification of some in the league as they were not in the correct group for the full year / race calendar (ie elite becoming a vet, etc.) or I might have misunderstood the issue totally
Meezo Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 What issue arose?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk you must start racing league now, and not do funrides then we can see/hear what happens #inserthashtaghere#insertanotherhashtaghere#insertanotherandanotherhashtaghere#insertanotherandanotherandanotherhashtaghere
Pure Savage Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 you must start racing league now, and not do funrides then we can see/hear what happens #inserthashtaghere#insertanotherhashtaghere#insertanotherandanotherhashtaghere#insertanotherandanotherandanotherhashtaghereAt R200 a pop per event, nah it's chilled. Since you asked so nicely #Puresavage #volvo #usn #bikehub #verssusocks #ciovita
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