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MTB on tar - Why?


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did anyone say they were riding spaz epics :P ?

Hairy, seeing as you ride your MTB on tar every day - did the movie okes block the whole cycle path before Woodbridge Island this morning or was there place to get passed?

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Hairy, seeing as you ride your MTB on tar every day - did the movie okes block the whole cycle path before Woodbridge Island this morning or was there place to get passed?

T'sek, don't let the cat out the bag.

 

Been on the MTB for a week or two now while trying to find a replacement axel for the SS commuter.

 

Movie crews ......... best I say nothing!

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To the contrary - and again repeating myself, I was questioning why a group of cyclists would want to put themselves in danger by riding in the road, with their mtb, when they can just venture 1,5m left onto the dirt and in doing so, be safer.

 

I have no problem with anyone riding their mtb on tar - I do it too at times.

 

It was clear that those that decided to ridicule me, did not read my first post nor the following ones explaining my true intentions.

 

I never attacked anyone at the beginning. I did become angered and reacted accordingly when people just cannot read.

 

That I do apologise for.

 

Why do I ask for the thread to be closed? Somewhere between what I type and what people read, meaning is lost. Then the obvious reaction would be to ridicule. Nothing constructive was added by those that ridicule.

 

Don't you think the prerogative lies with the OP to request closing a thread if nothing constructive comes from it?

 

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Here are a few reasons (many already mentioned above):

1. I need motorists to recognise me as a road user. Being on the road some times and on the gravel shoulder other times confuses motorists as to my right to be on the road and makes it unsafe for me (just like people who cycle in the wrong direction confuses motorists as the "place" a bike has on the road).

2. The gravel shoulder is not maintained or designed to take bicycling traffic (or any moving traffic). It is a safe place to pull your vehicle over in case you have to stop for whatever reason or to take emergency evasive action. 

3. As this is not designed to carry continuous traffic, you will have to move on and off the shoulder (see point 1 again), making it potentially unsafe as cars may be using the hard (paved) shoulder / space close to the shoulder to allow vehicles to pass. Me entering the hard shoulder / road at that time will leave the car / truck with no-where to go. If I was on the hard shoulder / road all the time, my behaviour would have been consistent and predictable allowing the vehicle to take the appropriate action (i.e. pull over after passing me).

4. There is enough space on our roads for bikes and cars to share the road. The issue is awareness from motorists and consideration from both cyclists and motorists for road users.

5. We seek to ride in the most efficient manner possible. That is why we chose our lines when we are out on the trails, avoid standing water and pick the best surface to ride on.

6. Pedestrians, litter, potholes, standing water, broken glass etc. are much less on a hard shoulder / paved road, making it safer and easier to use.

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Aaaah, the week day crew is in!

 

Great. Looking forward to working out why MTBers ride on tarmac if there is no road shoulder... :huh:

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To the contrary - and again repeating myself, I was questioning why a group of cyclists would want to put themselves in danger by riding in the road, with their mtb, when they can just venture 1,5m left onto the dirt and in doing so, be safer.

 

I have no problem with anyone riding their mtb on tar - I do it too at times.

 

It was clear that those that decided to ridicule me, did not read my first post nor the following ones explaining my true intentions.

 

I never attacked anyone at the beginning. I did become angered and reacted accordingly when people just cannot read.

 

That I do apologise for.

 

Why do I ask for the thread to be closed? Somewhere between what I type and what people read, meaning is lost. Then the obvious reaction would be to ridicule. Nothing constructive was added by those that ridicule.

 

Don't you think the prerogative lies with the OP to request closing a thread if nothing constructive comes from it?

 

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There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.

 

The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence.

Finally the day came when the boy didn’t lose his temper at all. He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper. The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all the nails were gone.

 

The father took his son by the hand and led him to the fence. He said, “You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this one. You can put a knife in a man and draw it out. It won’t matter how many times you say I’m sorry, the wound is still there.”

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There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.

 

The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence.

Finally the day came when the boy didn’t lose his temper at all. He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper. The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all the nails were gone.

 

The father took his son by the hand and led him to the fence. He said, “You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this one. You can put a knife in a man and draw it out. It won’t matter how many times you say I’m sorry, the wound is still there.”

 

Dats deep!

 

#Namaste #Respekt #PatchOurHeavenlyFather

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I have to thank the OP for starting this thread. 

 

When I read the title, I thought it was going to be a joking matter again and I just sold my road bike and mountain bike to buy a better MTB. (and i am one of those guys who will spend more time on the road than off road)  

 

But this is not the point. 

 

It does not matter what bike you are riding. I think this is why the op is being attack. 

 

Yes I know we have the same rights as cars on the road, and we have right of way so often. But cars ignore us. They try to squeeze past us because they can not wait 10 seconds. 

 

Just this morning I was stuck in my car behind a guy on a bike at a traffic light. He was lane splitting and stopped at the traffic light. took out his phone and did who knows what. 

The light turned green, and the first two cars squeezed pass him. And there I am, torn between 2 worlds. I have to go to work, but can not pass this guy (safely) who is busy on his phone in the middle of the road at a green light.

Then without looking he just pulls away and move over to the side. (where the yellow lane start in about 50 meters.

 

Its not about this incident, its all about being safe, and doing everything you can to be and stay safe.

Reality is some drivers think nothing about us or our lives. It does not matter where you cycle, or style of cycling that you do. 

 

The main thing is to stay alert stay save, keep an eye on traffic and think for the cars.

 

If you get hit, its a scratched car. And a human being that is injured, to what ever extend.  

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There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.

 

The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence, except on days when he moered his finger with the hammer - then that fence looked like a hedgehog orgy.

Finally the day came when the boy didn’t lose his temper at all. He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper. The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all the nails were gone.

 

The father took his son by the hand and led him to the fence. He said, “You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this one. You can put a knife in a man and draw it out. It won’t matter how many times you say I’m sorry, the wound is still there.”

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I think motorists who are also cyclists should have stickers on their vehicles, to show solidarity with them....maybe this simple act will create a bond i.e. The cyclist happy that the motorist understands the dangers he is exposed to and feeling sorry for him/her because he is the envy, the motorist letting the cyclist know that he understands and wishes he could be out there

 

 

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