Latest NSAID Dangers

[ChUkKy]

  On 3/16/2017 at 4:19 AM, V12man said:

I will only do a finger inspection if you suspect your eyeball is inserted in your ass....

 

 

 

Dips preference is the thumb, Vetseun told me.

[Fat Boab]

  On 3/15/2017 at 7:05 PM, Slowbee said:

I suppose what your are saying is that Dr's dont really no a thing.

 

flippen free advice for nadda!

 

Not all Drs are created equal. Some of them call themselves Doctors without a doctorate degree - medics and vets, just saying.....  

[Slowbee]

  On 3/16/2017 at 6:37 AM, Fat Boab said:

Not all Drs are created equal. Some of them call themselves Doctors without a doctorate degree - medics and vets, just saying.....  

most hubbers are doctors in that category

[Fat Boab]

  On 3/16/2017 at 6:41 AM, Slowbee said:

most hubbers are doctors in that category

 

....or professors even!

[DIPSLICK]

  On 3/16/2017 at 6:21 AM, ChUkKy said:

Dips preference is the thumb, Vetseun told me.

HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THUMB   LOOKS LIKE THE THUMB OF THOR

[MTBeer]

  On 3/16/2017 at 4:19 AM, V12man said:

I will only do a finger inspection if you suspect your eyeball is inserted in your ass....

 

The dangers of NSAID use during endurance sport are very real- especially drugs that are. More open to abuse- They impare renal artery flow as a side effect of their mechanism and you place you kidneys at risk.

 

Tim is also fond of quoting that voltaren is the biggest killer at comrades - and they have several studies that agree.

 

I think that using a cox-2 inhibitor has lower risk during excercise than a Cox 1 inhibitor- but there is little scientific reporting on this as yet.

Would it be possible to list a few of the common NSAID's available in SA, so that us non-medical types can be aware of them?

[V12man]

  On 3/16/2017 at 7:14 AM, MTBeer said:

Would it be possible to list a few of the common NSAID's available in SA, so that us non-medical types can be aware of them?

Anything is possible.....

 

The problem is where you cut off the list...

 

Aspirin

Voltaren

Cataflam

Neurophen

Ibuprophen

 

and many many others...

 

https://www.drugs.com/drug-class/nonsteroidal-anti-inflammatory-agents.html - I am sure there are more complete lists out there but should give you some clues

[MTBeer]

  On 3/16/2017 at 9:48 AM, V12man said:

Anything is possible.....

 

The problem is where you cut off the list...

 

Aspirin

Voltaren

Cataflam

Neurophen

Ibuprophen

 

and many many others...

 

https://www.drugs.com/drug-class/nonsteroidal-anti-inflammatory-agents.html - I am sure there are more complete lists out there but should give you some clues

so how long should you wait after taking one of these before exercising?

[Spinnekop]

Just as a very dumb question from a guy that has no cooking clue what does what,

 

The whole Tramadol saga that the pro's use to kill pain?  Maybe it does something els?

Will this be a NSAID? 

[Spinnekop]

A quick google search shows Tramadol does the "opoid" thing.  Thus not NSAID?

[V12man]

  On 3/16/2017 at 10:08 AM, MTBeer said:

so how long should you wait after taking one of these before exercising?

Hard to say - depends on what you are taking and how much and what type of exercise and what intensity... there is no study I am aware of that indicates this - but I would guess 24 hours should drop the risk to a point I would not be too concerned about... but this is strictly a guess and not based on anything I have read.

 

Question is really what long term damage is created via repetitive use - I cannot answer that.

[Halfdoesyn]

  On 3/16/2017 at 10:15 AM, Spinnekop said:

A quick google search shows Tramadol does the "opoid" thing.  Thus not NSAID?

Tramadol...Tramacet...Tramal... I never want that stuff near me again.

 

Sorry,

[VicanZA]

  On 3/16/2017 at 9:48 AM, V12man said:

Anything is possible.....

 

The problem is where you cut off the list...

 

Aspirin

Voltaren

Cataflam

Neurophen

Ibuprophen

 

and many many others...

 

https://www.drugs.com/drug-class/nonsteroidal-anti-inflammatory-agents.html - I am sure there are more complete lists out there but should give you some clues

 

better question what would you recommend in their place Dr V12?

[V12man]

  On 3/16/2017 at 10:14 AM, Spinnekop said:

Just as a very dumb question from a guy that has no cooking clue what does what,

 

The whole Tramadol saga that the pro's use to kill pain? Maybe it does something els?

Will this be a NSAID?

Not an nsaid but not to be used outside of proper medical care... lots of side effects that you don't want to have- especially for elderly and asthmatics

[Rudi Pollard]

  On 3/16/2017 at 10:19 AM, Halfdoesyn said:

Tramadol...Tramacet...Tramal... I never want that stuff near me again.

 

Sorry,

It is very strange how these drugs has an extreme effect on certain people and minimum effect on others.

 

I was on hospital at the start of February with a tibial plateau fracture and got prescribed Tramahexal post-op. I said okay cool, and all it did was relieve me of my pain and some nice afternoon naps. One of they guys in the ward with me told the doc he would never take it again is it makes him very confused. His previous experience on anything to so with tramadol made it sound like he took some serious drugs at a rave in cape town...

[NordicElf]

I know a few people who take Mypaid/Myprodol before rides as a preventative for headaches. To me this is a very bad idea... what should they be doing instead? Not riding due to headaches is not an option. Water intake does not seem to effect the onset or severity of the headaches, both are women between 25 and 35 of age.