PhilipV Posted December 3, 2018 Share On the topic of environmental atom bombs, how many of you are ready to give up coffee ?Offside! Eldron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 3, 2018 Share i am in a similar situation. We vegan as much as possible but when travelling we make allowances for vegetarian. It’s not a perfect system but it’s the best we can do. And I think that’s important. Even though it’s not a perfect system I believe it’s significantly better than the alternative. I think most rational people are in the same boat. A 90% reduction in "bad" stuff is 90% better than no attempt at all! Wayne Potgieter, Odinson and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted December 3, 2018 Share i am in a similar situation. We vegan as much as possible but when travelling we make allowances for vegetarian. It’s not a perfect system but it’s the best we can do. And I think that’s important. Even though it’s not a perfect system I believe it’s significantly better than the alternative.Yeah, it’s so much better than the alternative. I guess my wife and I were technically vegetarians for about a year before we went all in. The only time where I’ve found it somewhat impractical was when we were in Richards Bay in SA. There’s fokol places to eat there as a vegan. You’ve really got to club together a meal from sides and what not. I think expectations plays a big role. If you’re expecting to be able to find ready made vegan meals and vegan dining options wherever you go, then you might have a hard time. We travel extensively and always manage to get by. Heading to a vegan Kerstmarkt in Antwerp this weekend. Can’t wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted December 3, 2018 Share I'm not a vegan, but a vegetarian. I find veganism more difficult than I thought. I'm sitting in NYC after taking a flight from LHR. Unfortunately in my tiny world employment takes precedence.You want for nothing as a vegan in NYC. If you’ve got the time, head to one of the Candle restaurants, Organic Grill or Champ’s Diner in Brooklyn. ???? cfcjim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted December 3, 2018 Share Cool stuff from traditional media ???? Edited December 3, 2018 by 'Dale Chris_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted December 3, 2018 Share I'm already going to vegan hell. Lots of dairy (6L of milk + 3 kg of yogurt a week + cheese), meat twice a day, 2+ eggs/day, and plenty of avos and about 1 kg of almonds a month.You may take my meat but you can ever take my cheeeeeeeeeeeeeese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 3, 2018 Share Cool stuff from traditional media ???? https://youtu.be/hwoL6hWd4l0Interesting article from (what I consider) a reputable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 3, 2018 Share You may take my meat but you can ever take my cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeseYou and me both. Vegan cheese is nice in melted form but I have yet to find a vegan cheese I can stomach at room temperature... Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Potgieter Posted December 3, 2018 Share You and me both. Vegan cheese is nice in melted form but I have yet to find a vegan cheese I can stomach at room temperature...I agree here. Vegan cheese is ghastly. Milkman and Eldron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted December 4, 2018 Share Yeah, it’s so much better than the alternative. I guess my wife and I were technically vegetarians for about a year before we went all in. The only time where I’ve found it somewhat impractical was when we were in Richards Bay in SA. There’s fokol places to eat there as a vegan. You’ve really got to club together a meal from sides and what not. I grew up in Richards Bay - one of my best friends from school has been vegetarian since she was 7, so just over 20 years now. And she was always so chuffed to get out of town because there would actually be choices at restaurants! In Richards Bay it was either the garlic roll starter or the veggie side at the steak house for her. She still lives there and has gone vegan about 3 or 4 years ago. - extremely hard there - virtually no restaurant options, and limited stores there. You've got a Woolies food, but it's limited in terms of stock - and outside of Woolies there aren't many vegan stores there! Committment from her side! Odinson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman Posted December 4, 2018 Share Yeah, it’s so much better than the alternative. I guess my wife and I were technically vegetarians for about a year before we went all in. The only time where I’ve found it somewhat impractical was when we were in Richards Bay in SA. There’s fokol places to eat there as a vegan. You’ve really got to club together a meal from sides and what not. I think expectations plays a big role. If you’re expecting to be able to find ready made vegan meals and vegan dining options wherever you go, then you might have a hard time. We travel extensively and always manage to get by. Heading to a vegan Kerstmarkt in Antwerp this weekend. Can’t wait. Vegan by choice is very much a first world thing . In most of South Africa ( excluding our major cities ) and countries like us you will unfortunately have a tough time eating out or even making your own meal ( decent tasty meal that's not repetitive every day ) and stay true vegan .To get the correct amount of protein and nutrients from your meal on the budget that most South Africans live on is currently not possible on a strict vegan diet .It's a simple scale of economics ; the fewer demand there is for a certain food , the more it will cost to produce/supply . So if one day more and more people become vegan ,and demand picks up , more people will produce for that demand and more restaurants and shops will cater for a vegan lifestyle - which will make it more accessible and affordable .But we are a very very long way from there , and with our economy as it is , probably will never get there ? Plus , as Gen mentioned earlier , food is not just consumed for its nutrition . Taste is a massive factor determining what you eat , and sorry for the vegans , there is no way you will be able to match or even get close to the taste of "normal" food for the masses with vegan alternatives . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefmeister Posted December 4, 2018 Share En tog lyk jy nog steeds honger? `n Bietjie oefening help natuurlik. Maar dis hoofsaaklik squats in die gym wat mens so honger maak. You may take my meat but you can ever take my cheeeeeeeeeeeeeese Cheese is proof that someone out there wants us to be happy. Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_ Posted December 4, 2018 Share Cool stuff from traditional media Nice video. I like the thought at the end, I hadn't quite put the two together - when machines take over from the animals we previously used for x or y, they inevitably become endangered. Use, abuse, and throw away when we're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted December 4, 2018 Share `n Bietjie oefening help natuurlik. Maar dis hoofsaaklik squats in die gym wat mens so honger maak. Cheese is proof that someone out there wants us to be happy. Our Lord and Saviour, Cheesus* Christ. *plant-based of course stefmeister 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefmeister Posted December 4, 2018 Share Our Lord and Saviour, Cheesus* Christ. *plant-based of course*our Grate Lord Odinson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted December 4, 2018 Share I grew up in Richards Bay - one of my best friends from school has been vegetarian since she was 7, so just over 20 years now. And she was always so chuffed to get out of town because there would actually be choices at restaurants! In Richards Bay it was either the garlic roll starter or the veggie side at the steak house for her. She still lives there and has gone vegan about 3 or 4 years ago. - extremely hard there - virtually no restaurant options, and limited stores there. You've got a Woolies food, but it's limited in terms of stock - and outside of Woolies there aren't many vegan stores there! Committment from her side! Grew up there too, with some breaks in-between. If you went to Richardia or the Afrikaans high school, we might even know each other. Grease_Monkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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