Bonus Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Landing in a field with the gear down wouldn't give you any particular advantage would it? You'd lose speed quicker due to drag I imagine, and the gear would snap off first chance it got anyway. The engines were going to eat dirt either way, if they weren't already destroyed due to the original bird ingestion?
kosmonooit Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Gear could dig in and cause more fuselage damage, think the nose gear causing stress in this case it was the engines that dug in and braked the aircraft, you can see the channels./troughs from the overhead pics.
Bateleur1 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Landing in a field with the gear down wouldn't give you any particular advantage would it? You'd lose speed quicker due to drag I imagine, and the gear would snap off first chance it got anyway. The engines were going to eat dirt either way, if they weren't already destroyed due to the original bird ingestion? I think the whole plane would be scrapped in anyway. The only mission here was to get everybody out of it alive.
Pinarello1 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Landing in a field with the gear down wouldn't give you any particular advantage would it? You'd lose speed quicker due to drag I imagine, and the gear would snap off first chance it got anyway. The engines were going to eat dirt either way, if they weren't already destroyed due to the original bird ingestion?Expert said that it is better with the landing gear up as it would break off when landing and the debris could then rupture the fuel tanks leading to a possible fire. It could also big in and change the plane's trajectory before breaking.
SwissVan Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Expert said that it is better with the landing gear up as it would break off when landing and the debris could then rupture the fuel tanks leading to a possible fire. It could also big in and change the plane's trajectory before breaking. Gear up there is also much less chance of the plane doing a cartwheel or something similar.Pilots did a good job of keeping the wings level right up until impact Bateleur1 1
Spokey Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Expert said that it is better with the landing gear up as it would break off when landing and the debris could then rupture the fuel tanks leading to a possible fire. It could also big in and change the plane's trajectory before breaking. This, and dont stress about saving the aerie for its next schedule!. I would only consider gear down on a hard surface and even then a prepared one at that, like a dirt runway or quiet country road. The road scenario does bring in other dangers like telephone wires etc. Bateleur1 1
kosmonooit Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 Makes sense to keep the gear up if you are going to land in a field - I wonder the sequence of events in the cockpit, the aircraft had barely taken off when it hit that flock of birds. Generally one retracts gear with positive rate of climb.
Lotus Posted August 16, 2019 Author Posted August 16, 2019 Very relieved that Dale Earnhardt Jr and his family and crew are okay after their Citation crashed on landing. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/plane-crash-today-dale-earnhardt-jr-wife-passengers-plane-crash-accident-today-live-updates-2019-08-15/ Robbie Stewart 1
Quagga Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 Anyone on here that flies CCM ? Anyone know where one could get CCM training in Western Cape? I know NPL is also an option but that is another 18k for your license
Bateleur1 Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 Anyone on here that flies CCM ? Anyone know where one could get CCM training in Western Cape? I know NPL is also an option but that is another 18k for your license Help me out here ... what is CCM? SwissVan 1
dirtypot Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 Help me out here ... what is CCM? Conventional Controlled Microlight Bateleur1 and Quagga 2
Pinarello1 Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 Makes sense to keep the gear up if you are going to land in a field - I wonder the sequence of events in the cockpit, the aircraft had barely taken off when it hit that flock of birds. Generally one retracts gear with positive rate of climb. Meet the hero pilots who saved 233 lives in ‘miracle’ belly landing of jet in field Pilot's interview Bateleur1 1
Bateleur1 Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 Meet the hero pilots who saved 233 lives in ‘miracle’ belly landing of jet in field Pilot's interview This was a funny comment ... "Heroic indeed. But the fact that it was an Airbus 321 and not Boeing 737 Max added to the luck of the passengers"
Quagga Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 Help me out here ... what is CCM?Conventional Control Microlight or 3 axis control. Bateleur1 1
kosmonooit Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 What do you make of this from granular data FlightRadar of the Mieliefield Airbus? engines hung in for a while it seems
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