quentin1980 Posted May 30, 2019 Share I used my Garmin heart rate belt for the first time yesterday did 88 km in 2:47:00 average 31.6 and heart rate average was 153 BPM and max 176 BPM at what rate should a person train and when are you over doing it I am 38 years old and weight 80kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat2forLife Posted May 30, 2019 Share It varies from person to person. There is the rough guide of 220 minus your age which indicates your max HR, but I can still hit a max of 202bpm and I can relatively comfortably sit at an average of 180bpm for a 3 hour race at age 28. Some people engines just rev higher. Kinda like V-Tec which only kicks in at high rpms. Other people have big old V8's which work better at low rpms. I have checked with my doctor and everything is safe. So perhaps it would be a good idea to chat to your doctor about it as well. Jako De Wet, slickjay007, Flatdog7 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanDiv Posted May 30, 2019 Share I used my Garmin heart rate belt for the first time yesterday did 88 km in 2:47:00 average 31.6 and heart rate average was 153 BPM and max 176 BPM at what rate should a person train and when are you over doing it I am 38 years old and weight 80kg Sounds like a nice normal tempo sesh. I did a 3 hour race a few weeks back with HR avg at 173 and HR max of 198. I'm 31. Sleeping HR drops down to 30-34 BPM at night. Don't think you have to worry.. Might be worth reading up a bit about training in different heart rate zones and Training Stress Scores(TSS) now that you have the HR strap. Edited May 30, 2019 by JohanDiv Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadbod Racing Posted May 30, 2019 Share I wouldn't worry too much with your heart rate being at an average of 153bpm. I'm the same age as you are and mine sometimes goes over 180 but at no point do I feel like the end is nigh. Why not use the Karvonen method to work out what your heart should be? The 220 less your age is very broad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted May 30, 2019 Share I wouldn't worry too much with your heart rate being at an average of 153bpm. I'm the same age as you are and mine sometimes goes over 180 but at no point do I feel like the end is nigh. Why not use the Karvonen method to work out what your heart should be? The 220 less your age is very broad. Will play with this ... A buddy and I cycle together, and his hart rate is always about 20bpm higher than mine ... with mine being very low. My hart rate is a lot lower than the "220 - age" .... Dadbod Racing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veebee Posted May 30, 2019 Share thats nothing to stress about. Last thing you need is to have the HR hold you back, something we let the data take over. Dadbod Racing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted May 30, 2019 Share As they said, HR is a very personal thing.I did a tad over 3 hour session over the weekend, with an avg HR of 168bpm and a max of 186bpm. This is at the tender age of 54. Best way to gauge your max HR is to get a nice long climb where you can keep a constant tempo, and push it as hard as you can. Recover for a few minutes and repeat. The max HR you record should be close to your real max. Just as an aside, I can still push up to 192bpm, without any ill effects. As I said, every person is different, and no "formula" can correctly predict it, without you testing it. ChrisF and Dadbod Racing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamil Posted May 30, 2019 Share Ha Ha -- amazing - if I hit 186 bpm it would probably be seconds before I flatlined. On a long race pushing hard I might average 144 with a max of 169 or 170 .... and I'm a wet behind the ears 50 yrs old. As they said, HR is a very personal thing.I did a tad over 3 hour session over the weekend, with an avg HR of 168bpm and a max of 186bpm. This is at the tender age of 54. Best way to gauge your max HR is to get a nice long climb where you can keep a constant tempo, and push it as hard as you can. Recover for a few minutes and repeat. The max HR you record should be close to your real max. Just as an aside, I can still push up to 192bpm, without any ill effects. As I said, every person is different, and no "formula" can correctly predict it, without you testing it. bullet77, ChrisF and Wannabe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted May 30, 2019 Share A 144bpm avg ride for me is a soft pedaling, recovery session. (my best / worst recorded session ever, was a 1 hr Killarney session with an avg of 179, max of 189) But let's not hijack this thread. ChrisF, Mamil and JohanDiv 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted May 30, 2019 Share Ha Ha -- amazing - if I hit 186 bpm it would probably be seconds before I flatlined. On a long race pushing hard I might average 144 with a max of 169 or 170 .... and I'm a wet behind the ears 50 yrs old. must be a 50's thing ... I am clocking same average on harder rides, with my max being 160 to 165. PS - these numbers have gradually increased as my fitness increased .... let's see what the next year holds as I push the limits a bit further .... Mamil and MDJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanievb Posted May 30, 2019 Share Ha Ha -- amazing - if I hit 186 bpm it would probably be seconds before I flatlined. On a long race pushing hard I might average 144 with a max of 169 or 170 .... and I'm a wet behind the ears 50 yrs old. 186 is my running LTHR Mamil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted May 30, 2019 Share Why not use the Karvonen method to work out what your heart should be? The 220 less your age is very broad. Yep it is like a broad indication - if you say that formula is correct on average it actually means for half of people the value is too low and for the other half the value is too high. To the OP, easiest way to find out what numbers are valid for you is to record a number of rides & races over time and compare the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted May 30, 2019 Share I used my Garmin heart rate belt for the first time yesterday did 88 km in 2:47:00 average 31.6 and heart rate average was 153 BPM and max 176 BPM at what rate should a person train and when are you over doing it I am 38 years old and weight 80kg Try go to an experienced coach to do a LTHR (Lactic threshold heart rate) test to determine your heart rate training zones. You can also do the test yourself on an indoor trainer or suitable outdoor course,google "how to determine LTHR zones for cycling"Heres a link to a popular option:https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/joe-friel-s-quick-guide-to-setting-zones/ You can also use RPE (Rate of perceived exertion) as a simple guide until you do a proper test:Basically when the effort feels hard or very hard and talking in normal sentences becomes difficult....the HR at that effort will be close to your LTHR Have fun Dadbod Racing and slickjay007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarred Posted May 30, 2019 Share A more accurate prediction of your maximal Heart Rate is as follows: HRmax = 206.9 - (0.67 x age)As suggested it's better to try and do some testing to get this info. A LTHR or FTP test can give you a good indication of your "threshold heart rate". A VO2max or ramp test (1min steps ~ 20W increments) would be the best indicator of your specific training zones and maximum heart rate as well as your threshold. Once you have your threshold heart rate you want the bulk of your riding time (~80%) to be at 55-70% of Threshold HR with the rest of your training (~20%) at higher intensities (above threshold). Tuks HPC would probably be your best bet for a VO2max test in your region ChrisF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quentin1980 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Thank you for all the above responses and advise have a good indication how to use my HR monitor while training and to push myself further Bateleur1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur1 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Don't use standard formulas. As Wannabe and a few other said. Do a Test. When I bought my first Polar I did a course with Polar and they also advised the same way as Wannabe said to do a test yourself. Just a tip before you do a test, make sure you are well rested and warmed up properly before the test. I used that method along with some training plan stuff Polar provided with very good results in the past. It is also advised to redo a test every after every couple of months to ensure the levels are still relevant. Wannabe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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