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Pommie Mbwangwa has just described our batting as 'tentative' throughout the tournament. Our fellow Southern African is being a gent in his comment because as I am of the opinion that it's been indecisive throughout the tournament thus far. I suspect that we will fall short once again.

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SA scoring way too slow. They should be halfway after 30 overs. They not even remotely close to halfway.

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The bowling department have been competitive.

Kudus to the those that sling the arm.

 

The fielding standards below par.  :excl:

Sometimes those sharp chances would've been held in the recent past.

 

The batting standards way below par.  :nuke:

Very questionable 'last-minute-dot-com' selection with Markram and dropping the specialist in Hendricks.

The Mighty Hash is struggling with personal matters (and form) and batting in the top 4 is extremely mentally and emotionally challenging while the frontline bowlers is still fresh-ish.

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I said this right after he was selected in our squad. He had ample opportunity to play for the Cobras prior to the WC but he sat out as his father is/was ill. So a guy with zero form decides not to play himself back into form in the domestic setup on the basis of family related matters, is then selected to go to the WC. Is his father’s health going to be less of an issue then? How?

 

It makes ZERO sense.

 

Im a huge Hash supporter but it also has to be said he doesnt select himself. But still. Here we are. Eliminated.

 

 

 

Don't know what Amla is still doing in this team. His mind is clearly somewhere else.

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What an embarrassment. I hope Australia thump them into the ground so that they will be too embarrassed to climb off the plane and walk through arrivals.

 

The only player with any heart and passion was not even born in SA. We have become a nation of downtrodden people. Which is no surprise if you look at what is going on in our country.

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The bowling department have been competitive.

Kudus to the those that sling the arm.

 

The fielding standards below par. :excl:

Sometimes those sharp chances would've been held in the recent past.

 

The batting standards way below par. :nuke:

Very questionable 'last-minute-dot-com' selection with Markram and dropping the specialist in Hendricks.

The Mighty Hash is struggling with personal matters (and form) and batting in the top 4 is extremely mentally and emotionally challenging while the frontline bowlers is still fresh-ish.

On the contrary our bowling has been poor

 

The fielding tardy and under par

 

The batting is awful

 

The selections are questionable

 

Leadership and decision making poor

 

One stand out is that we are not motivated,poorly prepared with no sharpness

 

All round our worst performance

I would take choking before this insipid showing

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On the contrary our bowling has been poor

 

The fielding tardy and under par

 

The batting is awful

 

The selections are questionable

 

Leadership and decision making poor

 

One stand out is that we are not motivated,poorly prepared with no sharpness

 

All round our worst performance

I would take choking before this insipid showing

agreed. calling that steaming pile of wayward chucking seems a more desperate attempt to spin a glimmer of gold from a pile of lead.

an actual true assessment would say south africa's bowling is much better than that. This tournament however = utter horrorshow.

 

and they managed to drag van der dussen down with them. *smh*

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Rabada overworked. They playing that card. I wonder if his salary, or all the previous fawning and stats, says he shouldn't be up to the job.

I just think it's a tad early to start coming up with diagnostics for general poor performance. 

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Rabada overworked. They playing that card. I wonder if his salary, or all the previous fawning and stats, says he shouldn't be up to the job.

I just think it's a tad early to start coming up with diagnostics for general poor performance.

KG has been over worked for sure but I wouldn't be blaming the IPL. Did KG really have to play so many matches in the ODI's this past home season? Perhaps not. Would've provided opportunity to test other bowlers and to see how they go. If our depth was as strong as we thought. Also rushing Ngidi back from injury wasn't good either.

 

That said our singular problem has been our limpwristed batting (all season across all formats) and the batting unit and coach needs to get this fixed as soon as possible. Perhaps Benkenstein isn't as good a batting coach as Gibson had hoped he'd be. Neill McKenzie did a brilliant job when he was the coach. He's doing a fantastic job at Bangladesh. Clearly we need someone similar to Mac who can iron out technical and mental issues or we need to look at how our batting unit is comprised and if it's properly balanced.

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I used to watch almost every over of a 5 day test if I had the opportunity. In the last ~5 years I can count on one hand the amount of games I've watched. Same goes for Rugby, and that was mostly just SA vs NZ games, not one super lame rugby game.

The next 5 years will probably be zero for all sports combined.

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KG has been over worked for sure but I wouldn't be blaming the IPL. Did KG really have to play so many matches in the ODI's this past home season? Perhaps not. Would've provided opportunity to test other bowlers and to see how they go. If our depth was as strong as we thought. Also rushing Ngidi back from injury wasn't good either.

 

That said our singular problem has been our limpwristed batting (all season across all formats) and the batting unit and coach needs to get this fixed as soon as possible. Perhaps Benkenstein isn't as good a batting coach as Gibson had hoped he'd be. Neill McKenzie did a brilliant job when he was the coach. He's doing a fantastic job at Bangladesh. Clearly we need someone similar to Mac who can iron out technical and mental issues or we need to look at how our batting unit is comprised and if it's properly balanced.

The Tigers'batting does have lethality around it. did not know a saffa was coaching that aspect. Good for them!

 

I appreciate that spit happens, and individuals go through rough patches. What makes this WC performance so disappointing is that the team didn't have defense in depth, and seemingly utterly lacked BMT and streetsmarts to drag themselves up by the bootstraps.

They seem mentally exhausted more than anything. 

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I used to watch almost every over of a 5 day test if I had the opportunity. In the last ~5 years I can count on one hand the amount of games I've watched. Same goes for Rugby, and that was mostly just SA vs NZ games, not one super lame rugby game.

The next 5 years will probably be zero for all sports combined.

 

Same here. I'd rather go cycling on Helderberg or do some woodworking in my garage. Or if really lazy, go play games on my PC.

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I'm afraid it will get worse before it gets better. In the last couple of years in ODI's our go-to bowler wasn't KG but Tahir - and he's retired.  Steyn was broken before getting on the plane, Ngidi isn't anywhere close to fit (he's huffing and puffing after an over), and Shamzi looks like he's pregnant.

 

The only batsman that's been ok, was Faf, but he's let us down with some dodgy decisions. 

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Believe it, it's true ... Tahir is SA's No 1 World Cup bowler!

 

 it’s worth reflecting on just how remarkable it is that Tahir became a South African record-breaker.

Some players are earmarked for greatness from an early age but the leg-spinner didn’t make his ODI debut until February 2011 - just a month before his 32nd birthday.

It’s fair to say he swiftly made up for lost time.

He was the quickest South African bowler to reach 100 ODI wickets, taking just 58 matches, and is still the only spinner to do so.

He became his country’s first player to take a seven-for in a one-day international when he ended with 7/45 against West Indies in 2016 and perhaps his finest moment in a Proteas jersey was the man-of-the-match-winning 4/26 in the 2015 World Cup quarter-final against Sri Lanka.

In England this summer, he has continued to rack up the milestones: the oldest South African to appear in a World Cup match, playing his 100th ODI against Bangladesh, the first spinner - of any nationality - to bowl the first over of a World Cup match, and now leapfrogging every one of his countrymen atop the World Cup wickets ranking.

At Lord’s, in addition to his athletic exploits to remove Imam, Tahir also had Pakistan’s other opener, Fakhar Zaman, caught at first slip attempting an ill-advised ramp shot to end with figures of 2/41.

His ninth and 10th victims of the competition mean he currently has the most wickets of any wrist-spinner at the event - just another record to add to his CV.

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