Duane_Bosch Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 I have a 1x mtb on my IDT, a road 11 speed cassette works with my XT 1x derailleur and helps the gearing a little....I suppose the 32 on the front and the dustbin lid cassette isn't ideal. Not too stressed. Just going to change back to the roadie. Lesson learned.
RobertWhitehead Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 I have had my mtb on the IDT since 2013 and don't have any issues with the gearing and or bar width.Do you folks change gears on the IDT? I had a single speed on the IDT for quite some time as well. I never shift gears whilst using Sufferfest. Is Fulgaz and Rouvy "free rides" or is it based off your FTP? Sorry, I've never tried anything else other than Zwift for one ride. Please educate me - it's interesting I am also using the MTB on the trainer and it's ***, like you say the gearing is completely off.I was looking at other guys power numbers and wondering how the hell they were pushing those numbers...then realised it must be the MTB gearing Solomons got some nice specials on entry level road bikes so going to add one to the stable.
Dexter-morgan Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 I have had my mtb on the IDT since 2013 and don't have any issues with the gearing and or bar width.Do you folks change gears on the IDT? I had a single speed on the IDT for quite some time as well. I never shift gears whilst using Sufferfest. Is Fulgaz and Rouvy "free rides" or is it based off your FTP? Sorry, I've never tried anything else other than Zwift for one ride. Please educate me - it's interesting Rouvy is based on your weight(AFAIK) that you entered, if you do Workouts that will be based on power and determined by the person that created the workout.
RobertWhitehead Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Haaaaa ok, that makes sense why you would have to change gears when doing a route of a particular section. Ok got it. But what's the point of then having a "smart trainer" if you still use the your gears? Also, last question, promise - please don't come and "Dexter" my ass (I love Dexter - he's the man) . If you now have a "smart trainer" and use Rouvy, what parameters does it use to set the resistance? Rouvy is based on your weight(AFAIK) that you entered, if you do Workouts that will be based on power and determined by the person that created the workout.
Dexter-morgan Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Haaaaa ok, that makes sense why you would have to change gears when doing a route of a particular section. Ok got it. But what's the point of then having a "smart trainer" if you still use the your gears? Also, last question, promise - please don't come and "Dexter" my ass (I love Dexter - he's the man) . If you now have a "smart trainer" and use Rouvy, what parameters does it use to set the resistance? Your weight you entered for you and your bike and then the incline of the route - I need to change gears because some inclines I simply can not do in one gear, 10% gradient I have to stand on my pedals to make it up the hill.
BigDL Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Haaaaa ok, that makes sense why you would have to change gears when doing a route of a particular section. Ok got it. But what's the point of then having a "smart trainer" if you still use the your gears? Also, last question, promise - please don't come and "Dexter" my ass (I love Dexter - he's the man) . If you now have a "smart trainer" and use Rouvy, what parameters does it use to set the resistance?A smart trainer can technically simulate conditions from the real world. Therefore, when riding an incline you would gear down and a decline you would gear up. As opposed to a pure power based workout where the trainer, in Erg mode, will just adjust to the power setting regardless of what gear you are in.
dave303e Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 I have had my mtb on the IDT since 2013 and don't have any issues with the gearing and or bar width.Do you folks change gears on the IDT? I had a single speed on the IDT for quite some time as well. I never shift gears whilst using Sufferfest. Is Fulgaz and Rouvy "free rides" or is it based off your FTP? Sorry, I've never tried anything else other than Zwift for one ride. Please educate me - it's interesting For me with the Wahoo, training and intervals it makes no difference at all, I literally change gears once at the end of every ride to try get the cassette to wear equally. When you are in ERG the gears don't matter. But in freeride mode it is the same as having mtb gears on the road and they are not long enough.
SwissVan Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Haaaaa ok, that makes sense why you would have to change gears when doing a route of a particular section. Ok got it. But what's the point of then having a "smart trainer" if you still use the your gears? Also, last question, promise - please don't come and "Dexter" my ass (I love Dexter - he's the man) . If you now have a "smart trainer" and use Rouvy, what parameters does it use to set the resistance?Depends what function you are using on rouvey.Other than the obvious routes or programs you can choose to ride, you can also do free rides where you can control the power via + or - buttons on the screen.So it does not matter if you have only 1 gear (philistine... ????), as long as you are turning the cranks at a reasonable rpm you can manually set the resistance in Watts. You can also use gradient in the same way instead of W as a means of resistance.
Duane_Bosch Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 So I don't really know where else to ask this question so pardon the hijack. I'm currently doing 3 spinning classes a week. I keep my HR at around 85% for the classes and blow through around 700-850 calories per class. TuesThursSat. Most Saturdays I jump on the MTB after the spinning for a ride of around 15km and about 600m of climbing. I then generally do a longish leisurely road ride on the Sunday with my better half. Sorry for the cv. I have one question. Is there a raining program that I can get/download that will incorporate all of these elements as well as the 2 Rouvy sessions I have planned for Monday and Wednesday evenings? My mates are all DROP THE SPINNING AND THE ROAD RIDES AND JUST TRAIN ON ZWIFT!!! But I don't want to do that. The spinning has made a massive difference to my fitness this year. The classes are enjoyable and our little gym routine is an important part of our family life.
Vetplant Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 So I don't really know where else to ask this question so pardon the hijack. I'm currently doing 3 spinning classes a week. I keep my HR at around 85% for the classes and blow through around 700-850 calories per class. TuesThursSat. Most Saturdays I jump on the MTB after the spinning for a ride of around 15km and about 600m of climbing. I then generally do a longish leisurely road ride on the Sunday with my better half. Sorry for the cv. I have one question. Is there a raining program that I can get/download that will incorporate all of these elements as well as the 2 Rouvy sessions I have planned for Monday and Wednesday evenings? My mates are all DROP THE SPINNING AND THE ROAD RIDES AND JUST TRAIN ON ZWIFT!!! But I don't want to do that. The spinning has made a massive difference to my fitness this year. The classes are enjoyable and our little gym routine is an important part of our family life.This overrides anything else IMHO, do whatever works for you. You might* get to your best cycling shape by changing some things like swapping spinning classes for structured power training with a coach and adding some strength and conditioning, but at what cost to you family life? And what would you gain from it really, a 947 time of 2h35 instead of 2h50? 2nd at the local church race instead of 10th? Nah, stick to what you are doing, seems like it is plenty of volume at varying intensities and it suits your lifetime. Ignore the friends. *It is not a given that changes would make improvements, you might digress.
RobertWhitehead Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 What does your friends know ? If something works for you and you can spend some quality time with your family what does it matter if you only manage a sub 6 hour on the 94.7? (I exaggerate quite a lot - but you get my point) If however you're training for something specific and want to improve - not just time but also the way you feel whilst competing then as Swift mentioned already: A change may be a good idea but, Zwift is not the be all and end all, a structured plan is something worth looking into. On the Sufferfest App all their training plans through Training Peaks / Final Surge can be downloaded for free. So I don't really know where else to ask this question so pardon the hijack. I'm currently doing 3 spinning classes a week. I keep my HR at around 85% for the classes and blow through around 700-850 calories per class. TuesThursSat. Most Saturdays I jump on the MTB after the spinning for a ride of around 15km and about 600m of climbing. I then generally do a longish leisurely road ride on the Sunday with my better half. Sorry for the cv. I have one question. Is there a raining program that I can get/download that will incorporate all of these elements as well as the 2 Rouvy sessions I have planned for Monday and Wednesday evenings? My mates are all DROP THE SPINNING AND THE ROAD RIDES AND JUST TRAIN ON ZWIFT!!! But I don't want to do that. The spinning has made a massive difference to my fitness this year. The classes are enjoyable and our little gym routine is an important part of our family life.
ChrisF Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 This overrides anything else IMHO, do whatever works for you. You might* get to your best cycling shape by changing some things like swapping spinning classes for structured power training with a coach and adding some strength and conditioning, but at what cost to you family life? And what would you gain from it really, a 947 time of 2h35 instead of 2h50? 2nd at the local church race instead of 10th? Nah, stick to what you are doing, seems like it is plenty of volume at varying intensities and it suits your lifetime. Ignore the friends. *It is not a given that changes would make improvements, you might digress. Ironically, this is why I prefer Zwift for the IDT. I can free ride when I want to. I can climb or ride level if I want to ... And every so often I do a couple of laps of a shorter route, trying to better my own times ... and enjoy the odd draft/dice ..... often followed by a section of free ride at the end to cool down. Yesterday I finally got an opportunity to commute again. MAN, it is just SO much better to be out there ..... But then work happens, and I miss a couple of commutes and the IDT fills the void.
Vetplant Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 Ironically, this is why I prefer Zwift for the IDT. I can free ride when I want to. I can climb or ride level if I want to ... And every so often I do a couple of laps of a shorter route, trying to better my own times ... and enjoy the odd draft/dice ..... often followed by a section of free ride at the end to cool down. Yesterday I finally got an opportunity to commute again. MAN, it is just SO much better to be out there ..... But then work happens, and I miss a couple of commutes and the IDT fills the void.Agree with you on that. In our family setup( two daughters aged 4 and 1) the IDT allows me to exercise when they fall asleep and I can get the riding in as prescribed by my training plan. Without the IDT I probably would only have gotten time on the legs every 2nd Saturday for a couple of hours. As has been said before: if it works for your particular setup and whatever you hold dear, then it doesn't matter what anyone else says. Those friends of the previous poster honestly believe that their advice will help him but they seem to miss the big picture.
Duane_Bosch Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Those friends of the previous poster honestly believe that their advice will help him but they seem to miss the big picture.Indeed. So my freebie trial period to Rouvy has come to an end. I only did the virtual rides and didn't do any training sessions. I suppose i should have but. You know. Job. life real riding etc Things I like. 1. The AR rides. I love that stuff2. The realistic feel of the climbs. I "did" col de Soller which I've done in real life and if anything it felt ever so slightly harder on the trainer3. Ease of use Synching up the trainer, cadenciometer, HRM was easy as pie.4. Searching for and "riding" climbs and i want to tick off in real life.5. It works on my Mygica tv box Things I don't like1. The video goes patchy once you exceed a certain speed. To be fair someone did warn about this on here and advise that people download the route they want to ride beforehand. I installed BKOOL on my Mygica last night but I'll set that all up on Monday and test it out. I want to maximize the freebie access. After that I guess we'll try out RGT and then Zwift and make a decision from there.
RobertWhitehead Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Try the freebie Sufferfest as well Snip
Duane_Bosch Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Try the freebie Sufferfest as well No Android sufferfest. But it's on the list thanks. At this rate I won't have to pay for a subscription for a looooong time. Hehe.
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