[Event] 2019 PPA One Tonner

[Karman de Lange]

I’m lost in this seeding stuff... I did a 6:53 so what will my seeding end up being since it’s not updated on racetec as of yet....

 

And what starting group at the Argus I’m looking at... Last year it were 3G

go via ppa website to get seeding. https://pedalpower.org.za/seeding/

[Rlerm]

go via ppa website to get seeding. https://pedalpower.org.za/seeding/

[Rlerm]

Ok so it’s H...

 

What does that mean in terms of starting the Argus...

 

2D-2H??? Rough estimate

[Pure Savage]

Ok so it’s H...

 

What does that mean in terms of starting the Argus...

 

2D-2H??? Rough estimate

I think 2A

[Karman de Lange]

 

There are now only 10 seeded groups for the road with the last being K. This will only be effective as of the next PPA event which is the Sportive #8 held on the 1st of December.

Not really sure what to think about that...... but is what it is

[Pure Savage]

Not really sure what to think about that...... but is what it is

Going to be “fun”

[Skubarra]

Not really sure what to think about that...... but is what it is

 

Ok it makes more sense to me now. So the 2019 CTCT is the new base event (beta = 1) and all results are measured against this. Given that the 2019 CTC was a comparatively tough event is why everyones index values have increased

[thisismyotherbike]

Ok it makes more sense to me now. So the 2019 CTCT is the new base event (beta = 1) and all results are measured against this. Given that the 2019 CTC was a comparatively tough event is why everyones index values have increased

 

Exactly, but if everyone's index values increased proportionately it makes no difference as it's purely about your value relative to the next guy.

 

Edit:

Sort of a "if all children are special, none of them are" kind of reasoning 

Edited October 18, 2019 by thisismyotherbike

[Skubarra]

Exactly, but if everyone's index values increased proportionately it makes no difference as it's purely about your value relative to the next guy.

 

Edit:

Sort of a "if all children are special, none of them are" kind of reasoning 

 

Yes, that is why they also had to change the the group limits/borders (otherwise it would have been very lonely in A for some.. )

[DieselnDust]

They review the base beta every year. Surprised they used the 2019 CTCT

[Shebeen]

ah, so pedalpower got the seeding vibes!

 

I did the metric tonner.

they adjusted the winning time from 2:47 to

to 2:27 and beta is 1.05

 

seems odd to have two variables to play with, but if one shifts the offset and the other fattiness of the bell curve it makes sense.

 

 

They review the base beta every year. Surprised they used the 2019 CTCT

ja, it was quite windy wasn't it?

[Shebeen]

so far I have:

 

A 0-15

B 15-20

C 20-25

D 25-29

E 29-34

 

Any how, I probably belong in F somewhere, so E will do fine for me.  I wonder why they decided to change the limits of the groups instead of just reverting to the old winning times and betas of the other races.

according to my new seeding, F = 38-40..so that doesn't add up....

[Karman de Lange]

They review the base beta every year. Surprised they used the 2019 CTCT

Full PPA email...

 

Every year, as we head into the Spring cycling season, we make some changes to the seeding calculation, making the Cycle Tour the base event against which all other results are measured. With this year’s Cycle Tour having been exceptionally windy, the index increased (Note: “Index” measures how far you finished behind the Cycle Tour winner and we apply this differential to all your event results after the Cycle Tour).

The net result of everyone having higher indexes is that we have needed to adjust the cut-offs for each seeded group.  At the same time, we've taken the opportunity to look at group sizes at events and have reworked the cut-offs to provide fewer but roughly equal-sized groups.  There are now only 10 seeded groups for the road with the last being K. This will only be effective as of the next PPA event which is the Sportive #8 held on the 1st of December.

We will be doing the same for MTB early next week.

For any queries, please contact info@pedalpower.org.za