Gen Posted September 11, 2020 Share If DQS push this break too hard they might put Sam into a situation where making the time-cut comes into play....And he was alone in that group chasing back hey Correction I see another DQS rider Edited September 11, 2020 by Gen Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted September 11, 2020 Share Haha! De Gendt going to join the Break This is going to be an epic stage! Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plentipotential Posted September 11, 2020 Share So glad I never entered the race this year. Flat out from the gun on such a tough day. Good luck NTT. Gen, dsw, Vetplant and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted September 11, 2020 Share GC riders have sent teammates up the road for later. Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted September 11, 2020 Share So races today 1. Stage win2. GC battle3. Time cut Vetplant and dsw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted September 11, 2020 Share Impey is in the large Chase Group that is 30s ahead of the Main Peloton. Don't know whether it will be to support Yates later on, or to go for the win. Maybe more likely that it is to work. EDIT:Post was confusing. Edited September 11, 2020 by Vetplant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted September 11, 2020 Share Strange thought for the day: Every second article I come across mentions Jumbo not using Shimano wheels, but the Corima ones. Now I'm starting to wonder if even though they're not using the Shimano ones its actually better advertising because we're at least speaking about them all the time. Whereas if they were riding them it may have once gotten half a word somewhere.Also taking note that they on rim brakes as the bianchi disc is so heavy the could not get it near the weight limit. Mntboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mntboy Posted September 11, 2020 Share Impey is in the large Chase Group that is 30s ahead of the Main Peloton. Don't know whether it will be to support Yates later on, or to go for the win. Maybe more likely that it is to work. EDIT:Post was confusing.I suspect that he is there to support both Chaves and Yates for the stage win. Chaves at the moment in order to help him save some energy, doing the same for Yates later on. However it is nice to see him up the road! Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mntboy Posted September 11, 2020 Share Also taking note that they on rim brakes as the bianchi disc is so heavy the could not get it near the weight limit.It certainly does seem that is the end goal wrt their gear/tech choices. There must've been some interesting discussions regarding that. Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_ Posted September 11, 2020 Share Also taking note that they on rim brakes as the bianchi disc is so heavy the could not get it near the weight limit. I;m surprised they haven't broken out the new Specialissima for that. Discs, and light. Maybe in the serious mountains... Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted September 11, 2020 Share R. GibbonsJ. De BuystC. EwanR. Klugeare 9mins behind the leaders Sam is back in the Peloton, who are 5min30 behind the lead group, which is about 16 riders strong. Think the time cutoff is going to be somewhere between 40 to 60mins... (I don't understand the cut-off calculation completely yet) Edited September 11, 2020 by Vetplant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted September 11, 2020 Share R. GibbonsJ. De Buyst C. Ewan R. Klugeare 9mins behind the leaders Sam is back in the Peloton, who are 5min30 behind the lead group, which is about 16 riders strong. Think the time cutoff is going to be somewhere between 40 to 60mins... (I don't understand the cut-off calculation completely yet) @Frosty will tell you but I think it depends on the average speed of the winner. Frosty and Vetplant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted September 11, 2020 Share I see you guys have not mentioned NQ. Does he not have a shot at some big time gains ? Or is his TT that terrible ? Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Agreed on all fronts, except maybe for the bit on the TT. It has ALLOT of climbing. I don't know if the climbers need that much time in this case. But it is going to be fun to watch how everyone finds out on the day The main obstacle in the TT is 5.9 kms at 8.5% That is not the kind of climb that suits a climber like Quintana or Bernal. It is a climb that suits a Roglic and a Pogacar. Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 11, 2020 Share The time cut works on a % of the winner’s time and average speed. I think post #1454 explains the %.Be sure to use the mountains table. Convert the winner’s time to minutes.Multiply by the % relative to the average speedThis will give the estimated time cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 11, 2020 Share The important thing to note is that faster the overall average speed of the winner, the greater the percentage of the winning time. For flat stages the scale goes from: 5% for less than a 34km/h average 6% for a 34-35km/h average 7% for a 36-37km/h average 8% for a 38-39km/h average 9% for a 40-41km/h average 10% for a 42-43km/h average 11% for a 44-45km/h average 12% for a 46km/h average or greater For rolling stages the scale goes from: 6% for less than a 31km/h average 7% for a 31km/h average 8% for a 32km/h average 9% for a 33km/h average 10% for a 34km/h average 11% for a 35km/h average 12% for a 36km/h average 13% for a 37km/h average or greater For mountain stages the scale goes from: 6% for less than a 26km/h average 7% for a 26km/h average 8% for a 27km/h average 9% for a 28km/h average 10% for a 29km/h average 11% for a 30km/h average 12% for a 31km/h average 13% for a 32km/h average 14% for a 33km/h average 15% for a 34km/h average 16% for a 35km/h average or greater shaper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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