Jbr Posted October 8, 2020 Share Few people with optimistic times on there ... probably don't know there no more time stop at feeding zones and only 45min neutral .. so by default time is ~45min -1hr longer than last few years and recovery is almost nothing as its eat and ride, no sitting around anymore. Add the fact no more sucking faster teams passing (or at all).. its gonna be shocker long day for some..A goal is a goal haha then reality hits you If I can do a solo 100km under 3 hours I hope I can do 200km with 9 other guys working almost equaly under 6 hours.I'd be a bit disappointed to do more than 6 hours, even if there is a bit of elevation as well. I don't know about the wind factor in this race either... Anyways, I think I'm gonna have to wait for next year to find out Edited October 8, 2020 by Jbr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted October 8, 2020 Share Few people with optimistic times on there ... probably don't know there no more time stop at feeding zones and only 45min neutral .. so by default time is ~45min -1hr longer than last few years and recovery is almost nothing as its eat and ride, no sitting around anymore. Add the fact no more sucking faster teams passing (or at all).. its gonna be shocker long day for some.. Dont forget the effect this may have on some teams .... I remember the zone at Ashton last year. Some riders barely caught up at the feeding zone, when the leaders "timed out" and was going again .... some almost unsportsmanship shouting at late riders to "just grab and ride!!" ..... Take away those "catch-up times" and some teams may split badly .... If you really want to make this thing interesting .... let the 9th rider's time count for the team .... thus you can only loose one rider, and have to actually drag the team to the end .... DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karman de Lange Posted October 8, 2020 Share A goal is a goal haha then reality hits you If I can do a solo 100km under 3 hours I hope I can do 200km with 9 other guys working almost equaly under 6 hours.I'd be a bit disappointed to do more than 6 hours, even if there is a bit of elevation as well. I don't know about the wind factor in this race either... Anyways, I think I'm gonna have to wait for next year to find out I did 5:50 racetec time last year .. Elapsed time was 7:07, moving time 6:35 according to strava. So I was resting for at least 35 minutes. Neutral times ~45 minutes I can probably dig into times more for each feedings neutral, .. but it should give you idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karman de Lange Posted October 8, 2020 Share Dont forget the effect this may have on some teams .... I remember the zone at Ashton last year. Some riders barely caught up at the feeding zone, when the leaders "timed out" and was going again .... some almost unsportsmanship shouting at late riders to "just grab and ride!!" ..... Take away those "catch-up times" and some teams may split badly .... If you really want to make this thing interesting .... let the 9th rider's time count for the team .... thus you can only loose one rider, and have to actually drag the team to the end .... lots of teams rested 6 riders till ashton and used the long break there to catchup, then those 6 riders did next stint and others rested till next feed. Wonder what effect the fact that support vehicle allowed to "support" the team from ashton (but not feed them) will have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 8, 2020 Share Dont forget the effect this may have on some teams .... I remember the zone at Ashton last year. Some riders barely caught up at the feeding zone, when the leaders "timed out" and was going again .... some almost unsportsmanship shouting at late riders to "just grab and ride!!" ..... Take away those "catch-up times" and some teams may split badly .... If you really want to make this thing interesting .... let the 9th rider's time count for the team .... thus you can only loose one rider, and have to actually drag the team to the end ....That just makes everyone slower, way more interesting 5 riders time counting, being that dreaded 6th/7th person is real drama. Easy to push and shove and drag 10 to the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 8, 2020 Share lots of teams rested 6 riders till ashton and used the long break there to catchup, then those 6 riders did next stint and others rested till next feed. Wonder what effect the fact that support vehicle allowed to "support" the team from ashton (but not feed them) will have....There is more chance of the sock length being enforced than the non feeding from cars! gerriemtb and Jewbacca 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbr Posted October 8, 2020 Share There is more chance of the sock length being enforced than the non feeding from cars! Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted October 8, 2020 Share That just makes everyone slower, way more interesting 5 riders time counting, being that dreaded 6th/7th person is real drama. Easy to push and shove and drag 10 to the line. And you cant leave a PureSavage lady alone next to the road .... hoping somebody else will stop to help her with a puncture .... That one was fun .... by the time I stopped they had already pinched the spare ..... thankfully a passing rider gave a spare tube, so we could her going again. Would add a real "twist" to the game if you need to get more people to the end, to count for the time .... But as you say, it would be the same for everybody .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 8, 2020 Share And you cant leave a PureSavage lady alone next to the road .... hoping somebody else will stop to help her with a puncture .... That one was fun .... by the time I stopped they had already pinched the spare ..... thankfully a passing rider gave a spare tube, so we could her going again. Would add a real "twist" to the game if you need to get more people to the end, to count for the time .... But as you say, it would be the same for everybody ....Everyone is aware of the Pure Savage Puncture Protocol. Sid the Sloth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Wonder what effect the fact that support vehicle allowed to "support" the team from ashton (but not feed them) will have....Support vehicles were allowed some years ago as a trial.With neutralized stop and feed zones, feeding is less of a requirement/issue in the second half imo.What is very handy are spares on demand in case of a breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crazy German Posted October 8, 2020 Share That just makes everyone slower, way more interesting 5 riders time counting, being that dreaded 6th/7th person is real drama. Easy to push and shove and drag 10 to the line. Been there on the old route in Ceres I was told before the ride that I could bail before the last long climb as I was the biggest guy on the team. You ride yourself into the ground on the rolling stretch and then you just cruise home. 10k before the climb having been going at it full throttle for a long while I was told sorry dude only 7 left you are now going to Ceres as number 6. Moolman Welgemoed had the same joke pulled on him. Had my revenge coming into Ceres 7 minutes flat over the last 5k's Pure Savage and ChrisF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 9, 2020 Share Been there on the old route in Ceres I was told before the ride that I could bail before the last long climb as I was the biggest guy on the team. You ride yourself into the ground on the rolling stretch and then you just cruise home. 10k before the climb having been going at it full throttle for a long while I was told sorry dude only 7 left you are now going to Ceres as number 6. Moolman Welgemoed had the same joke pulled on him. Had my revenge coming into Ceres 7 minutes flat over the last 5k's That is the key!! When there are 8 or so and everyone starts looking around seeing who is hurting the most!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karman de Lange Posted October 9, 2020 Share anyone looking for team member maybe ,. . . . . . . . .Sorted. Edited October 9, 2020 by Karman de Lange peetwindhoek and MDJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K20Champ Posted October 13, 2020 Share When will the team seedings and start times be published? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflexus Posted October 13, 2020 Share When will the team seedings and start times be published? Probably second week of November once all teams have been finalised etc. DieselnDust and Pure Savage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 14, 2020 Share Its so lekker seeing all the DC teams out and about training again! splat and MDJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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