Blokman Posted August 18, 2022 Share 4 hours ago, Ozzie NL said: Interesting. I got Tradadol after broken ribs and did not enjoy the experience at all....felt like a bad trip One month ago . Same same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FondTF2 Posted August 18, 2022 Share See he has withdrawn from the Vuelta and is now appealing the TDF DSQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted August 18, 2022 Share 5 hours ago, FondTF2 said: See he has withdrawn from the Vuelta and is now appealing the TDF DSQ. Keen to hear the reasoning. It's not something that one would find in a tainted form afaik. And a WT Dr should/would absolutely know better than to administer it. I remember years back when an anti-doping evangelist ironically espoused on Twitter the virtues of the stuff. That he was able to complete a cross cape event with broken ribs pain free. This was within a twitter convo about banning it for competition use. Similarly when it was eventually banned by the UCI, I enquired with SAIDS and CSA on how this would be managed locally. Basically got fobbed off. Anyhow, found this to be one of the most useful links providing an overview on the risks associated with Tramadol: https://www.usada.org/spirit-of-sport/education/tramadol-why-some-athletes-and-anti-doping-experts-want-it-banned/ Morph, Frosty and FondTF2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Brink Posted August 18, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, Danger Dassie said: Keen to hear the reasoning. It's not something that one would find in a tainted form afaik. And a WT Dr should/would absolutely know better than to administer it. I remember years back when an anti-doping evangelist ironically espoused on Twitter the virtues of the stuff. That he was able to complete a cross cape event with broken ribs pain free. This was within a twitter convo about banning it for competition use. Similarly when it was eventually banned by the UCI, I enquired with SAIDS and CSA on how this would be managed locally. Basically got fobbed off. Anyhow, found this to be one of the most useful links providing an overview on the risks associated with Tramadol: https://www.usada.org/spirit-of-sport/education/tramadol-why-some-athletes-and-anti-doping-experts-want-it-banned/ That was such fun. 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted August 18, 2022 Share 16 hours ago, dexterdent said: This peer-reviewed, but limited, study shows pretty significant performance benefits in a 20min TT: https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/tramadol-found-enhance-cycling-performance-study-finds-357365 Interestingly, and perhaps counter-intuitively, it did not show mental function decline under these specific testing conditions, but I would not want to ride in a peloton on Tramadol. It feels pretty strange that it is not a WADA banned substance. one study is not science. Tramadol isn't on the WADA banned list because its not performance enhancing. Its not even a god masking agent but its one of those things that rider abuse because they don't understand what it does. Its likely a placibo with some nasty side effects in some people. Akon and babse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 20, 2022 Share On 8/18/2022 at 11:56 AM, Morph said: more importantly.... Louis is now 7th overall😁 No, he stays 8th and 6th is empty. TheoG, Vetplant and splat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted August 20, 2022 Share 5 minutes ago, Frosty said: No, he stays 8th and 6th is empty. 😪 Frosty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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