guidodg Posted October 17, 2022 Share the point here is I doubt a 183cm rider would ride a 54cm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted October 17, 2022 Share 5 minutes ago, guidodg said: the point here is I doubt a 183cm rider would ride a 54cm.... A Large Giant TCR is a 53cm and the recommended fit range is 183-193cm. Which shows how stupid using seat tube measurement to determine the correct frame size is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidodg Posted October 17, 2022 Share this is also true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadvdw67 Posted October 17, 2022 Share I hear what you guys are saying about bike fitting, but my experience with bike fitting has been really negative, I have done 3 bike fittings on 3 different bikes and I was never happy with them, so yes, I am hesitant to go and drop more money on bike fits just to be unhappy with what they have done.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidodg Posted October 17, 2022 Share I absolutely concur with bike fitting being a complete waste of money except perhaps for a complete novice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted October 17, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, Chadvdw67 said: I hear what you guys are saying about bike fitting, but my experience with bike fitting has been really negative, I have done 3 bike fittings on 3 different bikes and I was never happy with them, so yes, I am hesitant to go and drop more money on bike fits just to be unhappy with what they have done.... That is the downside of bikefitting - it is still relatively new so there isn't a lot of consistency....yet. Come visit me in Copenhagen. I'll find the right bike for you and fit it to perfection or your money back :-) thebob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted October 17, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, guidodg said: I absolutely concur with bike fitting being a complete waste of money except perhaps for a complete novice... You're going to the wrong fitters. eddy, NickGM and _David_ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadvdw67 Posted October 17, 2022 Share 13 minutes ago, Eldron said: That is the downside of bikefitting - it is still relatively new so there isn't a lot of consistency....yet. Come visit me in Copenhagen. I'll find the right bike for you and fit it to perfection or your money back 🙂 Maybe it was just that fitter, who knows, but all I can really remember, was as much as I was telling them I want to be comfortable and have a comfortable position on the bike, the more they would push a more "performance" suited position so that really didnt help, and it just doesnt inspire much confidence to go on and try any other fitters....  Thanks for the offer, but if I do that, there will be no money for a bike.... 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted October 17, 2022 Share 1 minute ago, Chadvdw67 said: Maybe it was just that fitter, who knows, but all I can really remember, was as much as I was telling them I want to be comfortable and have a comfortable position on the bike, the more they would push a more "performance" suited position so that really didnt help, and it just doesnt inspire much confidence to go on and try any other fitters....  Thanks for the offer, but if I do that, there will be no money for a bike.... 🤣🤣 We have a few of that style fitter over here. Generally over 60 or an ex racer. Slam the 130mm stem, saddle 30mm too high, at least 140mm drop, flat hoods, saddle angled downwards. Aero über allem! Makes no sense if you're not super flexible, not doing daily stretching, not doing plenty of core work and don't have an FTP over 450w.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadvdw67 Posted October 17, 2022 Share 1 minute ago, Eldron said: We have a few of that style fitter over here. Generally over 60 or an ex racer. Slam the 130mm stem, saddle 30mm too high, at least 140mm drop, flat hoods, saddle angled downwards. Aero über allem! Makes no sense if you're not super flexible, not doing daily stretching, not doing plenty of core work and don't have an FTP over 450w.  Wow, that is impressive, never even named the fitter and it sounds like you know who I am talking about 🤣 Eldron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingTOpeddle Posted October 17, 2022 Share Since watching this dude’s stuff my thinking on bike sizes have changed. All his stuff is quite interesting regarding this topic.  Eldron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted October 18, 2022 Share 13 hours ago, guidodg said: I absolutely concur with bike fitting being a complete waste of money except perhaps for a complete novice... yes thats why no pro riders ever have bike fits done NickGM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted October 18, 2022 Share On 10/17/2022 at 11:41 AM, Thomo said: ... and stock availability. Some will try to convince you that whatever is on the floor is your size. 🙈  JIP .... That was some expensive school fees .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanievb Posted October 18, 2022 Share I'm 172 MTB is a medium. I have both 54cm and 52cm Road bike and I much prefer riding the smaller road bike. Edited October 18, 2022 by fanievb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidodg Posted October 18, 2022 Share On 10/17/2022 at 4:53 PM, Eldron said: A Large Giant TCR is a 53cm and the recommended fit range is 183-193cm. Which shows how stupid using seat tube measurement to determine the correct frame size is. BTW a Large Giant TCR has a 58cm top tube...you are referring to 53cm seat tube but all the other postings in this thread are about top tube which is the way road frames are measured nowadays I am 178cm and rode a Giant M\L which has a 56,5cm top tube... Since a lot of modern frames are very sloping [thank you Giant] the seat tube measurement means very little...reach and top tube is everything Edited October 18, 2022 by guidodg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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