ewep Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 Man, kry vir grappie en maak haar los op die oom. Arm ding, boek solank sy plek in Weskoppies
widget Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 widget' date=' thats a bit harsh. What they did is not right. But I have to agree with some of the posts, ask Elsa Karsten, Annelie and the other cyclists who were knocked of their bikes by impatient drivers, while they were keeping to the road rules and riding behind ach other. On top of that Annelie had a hit and run and what happened to the driver when they caught him - NOTHING. They were lucky to get away alive but what about the man that was knocked and killed. That is "absolutely disgracefull and I hope the full weight of the law is brought against these mobsters. " I don't agree with violent behaviour because one wrong does not correct another wrong, but cyclists are getting fed up with the attitude of drivers and the lack of law, that the cyclists have. [/quote'] Its not harsh at all Shammy Rash, two wrongs dont make a right, of course we run the risk of been knocked over and many of us do, is that a licence to now beat up defenseless old men?? If you venture into the lions territory and get mauled is this a reason to eliminate and injure lions?
tamaties Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 i agree we need to wait for the other side of the story, and all cyclists cant be blamed for the &%^holes who do take the whole road when doing their morning ride and believe motorists has to go around them.....and if this OUPA got all agro for nothing, and tried to knock the group over(when they were riding in single file)....... then he deserves the DONNER !!!!!
Spinnekop Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 Widget......You are very one sided here.....do you believe the media THAT easy????? What a disgrace' date=' six able bodied young cyclists attack a 60 year old man with pepper spray and fists and its somehow condoned by some???[/quote'] I do not condone it......maar dood het 'n oorsaak. What next' date=' do you baseball club the cashier at your local supermarket because they were impolite or the cleaner because they left the floor wet and you fell.??[/quote'] Do you for ONE moment think this old man did not ENDANGER THEIR LIVES??? One moment WIDGET?? Cyclists are not above the law' date=' cyclists are not some kind of elitist group who can do and say as they feel fit,[/quote'] No WE as cyclists are not.....hence they will be punished for their poor actions....... cyclists are not in a position to take the law into their own hands' date=' cyclists are not in a position to defer their anger on defenseless old men.[/quote'] Widget....he was not defenseless....he had a 2 ton steel cage moving at a killing speed and threatening lifes with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't forget that. Cars KILL cyclists. No bruses....no scratches....no deedles needed. KILL!!! Its an absolutely disgracefull situation and I hope the full weight of the law is brought against these mobsters. This is now the same law we are speaking of that has Zuma free of Rape and corruption and that other dude having weekend brakes out of jail????? This is all a big joke. Stop judging and lets see where all this hype is going to......And in the mean time the newspaper is making lots of money and the road users will get more aggressive and will get away with it....... LOVE OUR COUNTRY!!
Thyolo Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 Bedfordview is a pain as it's full of A-type personalites whether on bikes in cars or on foot.Yesterday saw a guy running on centre line of Van Buuren in traffic for a K or so at 7:30 in the morning - that's got a low life expectancy. Sat. morning 8:00 it's joggers 4 a breast wheezing there way back to Virgin Active. Jees some people, if only everyone was right, like me.
shammy_rash Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_2.gif http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_2.gif 10/10 spinnekophttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_4.gif well saidhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_55.gif
fourbar Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 ...still waiting for BEELD to come on record...
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Thug Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 Don't forget that it was in Bedfordview that those 2 runners got knocked down and killed a couple of months ago. Maybe it's Befordview drivers ?
fourbar Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 shammy rash: thanx for the info, but the invite is addressed to BEELD to approach this public forum, not to enter into private discussion through e-mails away from the Hub...
pastapouch Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 ...still waiting for BEELD to come on record... yaaaaa, die dag as die perde horings kry. hulle lawe en troos seker nou die ou ballie wat niks verkeerd gedoen het nie...
Skywalker Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 Hallelujah??I praise those six cyclists, long overdue brothers. Now where is the brotherhood in you cyclists. Yes, they did break the law, but we(cyclists) all will benefit from what they did so lets support them, they have done wrong I agree but hey man, they are our brothers. What if they were knocked down or killed by Oupa? <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />I also have a long cycling CV(with accidents and shot at) and always feel like an insect when cycling. I refuse to ride on busy roads, but even so, OUPA?s in their diesel bakkies are my greatest concern as a cyclist and I rate them below taxi?s even and I say that from experience. I commute to work on my motorcycle everyday, comes rain or shine and on the m/cycle I feel like Moses, the traffic just opens up like the sea did for him. Why, because of my bad ass biker brothers and not all bikers are like that, but shyte man, we all benefit. If a car can almost run over pavements or even pull over and stop to make space for a biker, why can?t they do the same for cyclists? Well done guys and in a group of 40 cyclists chances are 99% that there was an Oupa in there too you know.
MintSauce Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 Stop judging Take your own advice until all the facts are available
Bateleur1 Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 I have the following question .... If these guys are to be apprehended, would they be prosecuted the same way as a motorist that runs a cyclist over? If that is the case, they should just hand themselves over. Nothing to worry about. The law will do nothing in that case.Chances are however that they will prosecute them. I just wish that motorist would be charged the same way these will be. Just for the record. I do not condone what these guys did, but I will give a motorist a part of my mind if he threatens my life and if after that he decides to show any aggression to me after that, I will retaliate. OUPA is NOT innocent. BEELD, thanks for fuelling an already unstable and volitile situation on our roads. Sleep well tonight on a job well done.
Spinnekop Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 Hey MintSauce....Very well though out post!!!Thanks for your valuble contribution......makes life a lot more of a learning experience.....
fourbar Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 ...still waiting for BEELD to come on record... yaaaaa' date=' die dag as die perde horings kry. hulle lawe en troos seker nou die ou ballie wat niks verkeerd gedoen het nie...[/quote'] They sell their paper in public, surely they know how to participate in a public internet forum...?
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