"How much does it weigh" questions are silly

[Gregzilla]

 

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If it's really a deal-breaker for you, look up the spec sheets you can easily find on the web. It's really not that hard.

 

Have you ever tried to find the weight of a bike ? its extremely frustrating most manufacturers websites do not have the weight of the bikes anywhere, they are quite happy to give you a spec list, but somehow dont seem to be able to afford a scale to weigh the bikes, have you ever wondered why this is? Is it not because they know that when it comes to buying a new steed and we are faced with two choices as cyclists we will 99% of the time choose the lightest option.

 

Will always ask the weight of something I am looking to buy,

 

[Thumper]

Weight was never an issue to me until i wanted to upgrade my bike.

Didn;t see the point of spending 50K on a bike that weights the same as what i have now with an inch less travel at the back.

 

If its not lighter no point is upgrading?

 

[Mr. G]

good point' date=' and why is is that the same people ask the same questions for just about every sales add?? 

 

Surley you not interested in every bike thats is for sale?  have you got nothing better to do that read through sales adds and comment on every one?

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Exactly!

 

And many guys change a few things on their bike to make it lighter, so people are keen to know the weight .

Funny that the entire industry is about weight reduction- but some don't care about weight??? SURE

[covie]

Obviously wheight is important but i would rather have a bit heavier tyre if i know its stronger and wont puncture/tear easily, ill take a couple 100 grams extra on my brakes if I know it works better than the super lightweight stuff and is a bit more durable, etc. Wheight is not always the alfa and omega.

 

But too those wheight concious individuals i saw a nice pair of cabon fibre oakleys, only R48000 so definitly worth the 10 grams it wheighs less than normal sunglasses.

[Mr. G]

Obviously wheight is important but i would rather have a bit heavier tyre if i know its stronger and wont puncture/tear easily' date=' ill take a couple 100 grams extra on my brakes if I know it works better than the super lightweight stuff and is a bit more durable, etc. Wheight is not always the alfa and omega.

 

But too those wheight concious individuals i saw a nice pair of cabon fibre oakleys, only R48000 so definitly worth the 10 grams it wheighs less than normal sunglasses.

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I saw them too , crazy

 

But I would suggest that maybe those people who don't weigh their bike, are too scared to weigh themselves too

[Headshot]

Obviously wheight is important but i would rather have a bit heavier tyre if i know its stronger and wont puncture/tear easily' date=' ill take a couple 100 grams extra on my brakes if I know it works better than the super lightweight stuff and is a bit more durable, etc. Wheight is not always the alfa and omega.

 

But too those wheight concious individuals i saw a nice pair of cabon fibre oakleys, only R48000 so definitly worth the 10 grams it wheighs less than normal sunglasses.

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100% - imagine tearing down a gnarly descent and your c/f bar snaps sending you head first into a rock - it happens. And whats more you'd have been going faster down the hill on a heavier bike that would not have broken. Have a sensibly light bike, not a stupidly light one.

[X-Gear]

Reasons for asking this question:

 

1.  It would appear that some guys/gals are only interested in getting the "Posts number count" up and therefore ask silly questions or make irrelevant remarks.

 

2.  Hey, at least he/she feels they are participating in the Forum and the time on the web is not a total waste.

 

3.  Initially (a few months back when I joined the Hub) this sounded like a propa question to ask.  When in Rome...

 

4.  You have nothing better to ask.

 

5.  It's an escape code for when you do not have the bucks to buy it.  Sorry, my current one is lighter.

 

6.  For the 2% (80% of all statistics are a thumb suck) that does not just enjoy MTB and want to win at all cost, this is a ligit question.

 

By the way, I have no idea what my 2005 dual sus weighs.  But loving every second I'm on it.  And yes, I can (and should) loose about 4kg around my waste.  But hey, at least a smile and wave to all (including roadies) cyclists when I pass them (or they pass me,  more likely) on the bike.

[Johan Bornman]

Amen X-Gear.  My thoughts exactly, albeit a bit less eloquent. My thoughts were that 98% of them are just tyre-kicking and fartarsing around.

[LazyTrailRider]

By the way' date=' I have no idea what my 2005 dual sus weighs.  But loving every second I'm on it. [/quote']

 

Me neither.

 

On a similar note, I remember someone at a race once asking Andrew Neethling what bar he runs his tyres at. His response: "hand-bar... I just squeeze them to get a feel".

 

Two questions at this point:

 

1) How many people, when buying something 2nd hand on the hub, have taken their existing part off the bike beforehand and weighed it precisely in preparation for comparing it to the answer they're hoping to get from the seller?

 

2) What if the seller's kitchen scale isn't in turn precisely calibrated? Are you going to return your pimped-out new 2nd-hand fork because it's 43.4g heavier than you thought it would be (and thus 21.2g heavier than your current one, which is totally unacceptable)?

 

(Insert sighing, head-shaking emoticon here).

MartinHattingh2010-05-19 11:41:29

[urbanroyal]

Force = Mass X Acceleration

 

 "A body experiencing a force F experiences an acceleration a related to F by F = ma, where m is the mass of the body. This means that an object will accelerate with acceleration proportional to the force and inversely proportional to the mass"

 

I am no scientest but I think that this means that the more the mass is the slower you will accelarate when a force [pedal action ] is applied.

 

This is also the reason dragsters make their cars as light as possible.

 

Right now I am reducing the mass around my waist so my 9 kg bike doesnt bother me, in fact it helps me

 

 

 

[LazyTrailRider]

 

This is also the reason dragsters make their cars as light as possible.

 

And why they have mullets too?

[quinton]

People want to know if their large @ss will break the bike/component advertised. Or if buying the new part is easier to drop some weight off their bike instead of from their @ss

[cat-i]

 

Reasons for asking this question:

 

1.  It would appear that some guys/gals are only interested in getting the "Posts number count" up and therefore ask silly questions or make irrelevant remarks.

 

2.  Hey' date=' at least he/she feels they are participating in the Forum and the time on the web is not a total waste.

 

3.  Initially (a few months back when I joined the Hub) this sounded like a propa question to ask.  When in Rome...

 

4.  You have nothing better to ask.

 

5.  It's an escape code for when you do not have the bucks to buy it.  Sorry, my current one is lighter.

 

6.  For the 2% (80% of all statistics are a thumb suck) that does not just enjoy MTB and want to win at all cost, this is a ligit question.

 

By the way, I have no idea what my 2005 dual sus weighs.  But loving every second I'm on it.  And yes, I can (and should) loose about 4kg around my waste.  But hey, at least a smile and wave to all (including roadies) cyclists when I pass them (or they pass me,  more likely) on the bike.

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if it bothers you this much, then just don't read it???

 

[Mr. G]

Agreed cat-i

Lighter bikes and lighter people perform better, we nearly all strive towards both at different stages. If you don't, then don't get involved in our weight debates or ad's simple But maybe we have some closet weight weenies???

[cat-i]

 

 

hahaha mr g i realised these last few weeks i'm a closet wiehgt weenie! i'm out of the closet now, however - it never bothered me, untill someone said 'R900 for every kg you're overweight' ... i've weight-weenie'd myself into being almost a kg underweight on check-in baggage (but shock-pump might have to travel with) and over 3 kgs of handluggage that can take extra.   

on the bike, a different shock and the trance's wheels made a kilo and a half difference ... and off the bike there's a LOT of opportunities to save weight. i can tell you that a salomon 20l bag is 200g lighter than a camelback 25 liter bag ... and my favourite fox shirt stays at home, cos it's 50g heavier than my second-favourite capestorm one.   oh, yes, and the dettol sample-soap that i got in some or other goodie-bag is a few grams lighter than the protex-one from a different goodie-bag from another event - AND it's got moisurisers in 

 

3 cheers for weight weenies!!

 

cat-i2010-05-19 14:49:42

[nacho!]

 

Force = Mass X Acceleration

 

 "A body experiencing a force F experiences an acceleration a related to F by F = ma' date=' where m is the mass of the body. This means that an object will accelerate with acceleration proportional to the force and inversely proportional to the mass"

 

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p = mv

Thus bigger mass equals bigger momentum...Easier fighting against the wind and more fun on the downhill sections ...(not to stop though)