Final team for worlds

[NotSoBigBen]

WW -

[pastapouch]

ww - csiad was probably sleeping - bored by SAs

That includes Ronel? She just won the sprint of a boring and pathetic race at SA's.

 

 

[csiad]

I was falling asleep till they got to the finishline.

[Chrissie]

Riding overseas is a completely different ball game to riding locally.  I have seen most of the girls ride overseas and it is a real shame that Robyn and Lynette were not selected, as I believed they would have contributed to good results for the team. 

It's sad that Ronel is ending her career like this. She still had a couple of good year's ahead and she worked very hard on her cycling this year.  If selected under the circumstances, it will put a lot of pressure on her to perform, which also is not fair.

 

Marissa is a great selection for the team - she has the form, the experience and the talent and guts to get a good result.

 

Good luck to you guys!

[Turk182]

Herewith with Team which, was approved by the Vice President for the World

Road Championships.

 

Elite Men:

James Perry

Daryl Impey

Darren Lill

David George

Ian McLeod

 

U23 Men:

Nolan Hoffmann

Jay Thomson

Jacques Janse Van Rensburg

Jacobus Venter

 

Elite Women:

Marissa Van Der Merwe

Minette Naude

Yolandi Du Toit

Anriette Schoeman

 

Manager:  Barry Austin

 

Anriette is not exactly riding well, she looks like she is struggling on training rides.........oh well maybe she is hiding good form..... 

[Spinnekop]

That includes Ronel? She just won the sprint of a boring and pathetic race at SA's.

 

That one and about 20 other........

[Witrot]

This team selection is just more amazing each time!! It is clearly that you have to be stuck up in someones bud 100% all the time. Doesn't matter what your condition is!! You could be sitting at home and eat popcorn each day and still make the team. Why do we stick to selectors only, doesn't matter who you pick as selectors there will always be biased choices made. Get a system and if the selectors want to make a change, they have to report why publicly!!!

 

Where's the girls that did well in China and the minolta girls of Ronel and Arien.

Yolandi and Arien raced half the season together numorious times and matched each other fairly well!

 

Last question. With this kind of issues around the teams. Aren't the selectors suppose to give a public thing out to say why certain individuals was selected!!! and on what basis!!!

[Spinnekop]

Class of which field Cruxie? There was'nt any.... I agree Anriette is average' date=' but so is the rest of SA women's elite cyclists. When did ANY of them actually perform in Europe? That includes Ronel? She just won the sprint of a boring and pathetic race at SA's. She did'nt break away so she's no more special than princess. She got SA's 3 times princess got it 7 or 8 times, but its irrelevant info. SA's means squat. And it counts for the elite men as well.

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Yup.....so in general you have the opinion of not sending anyone.....no one has your approval to compete against the best overseas, yes?

 

And yes...SA's counts squat...so what does?  the funrides in the Cape?

 

If you don't know what is going on behind the scenes, you will NEVER understand what is happening!!!

So....do you as the Elite expert on the board know what else Ronel can mean for SA cycling other than winning races?

 

Don't know why I even bother replying to this thread.  I think SA selectors.......

Nee wag...waar is daai deur waar Mampara so baie ingaan?

 

[AndreT]

That includes Ronel? She just won the sprint of a boring and pathetic race at SA's. She did'nt break away so she's no more special than princess.

 

Shame it must be very hard to be an ignorant idiot, but I must admit you manage to do it well!

 

Crux put this one down for the "Most stupid comments" award

[Wonder Woman]

Thank You AndreT

[csiad]

Marissa van der Merwe is the only rider that would get my approval as a rider from SA. I don't know what shape Yolande is in, but she could also be an asset. So what about Arien Torsius? She spent half the season overseas as well? To be honest, I'd rather put Arien or even an under aged Cherise in Ronel's place. She has NEVER had any overseas results and is overrated. She has proved in the past to not be a climber. And why is Malcolm not making a fuss about not going? Because he is realistic. SA's does'nt mean anything, oh errr uhmm and the funrides in the Cape. According to the fuss on the web it is about the funrides here in Joburg. Who has been winning the "funrides" in any case in the last month?

I rest my case...    

[Sammajoor]

Marissa van der Merwe is the only rider that would get my approval as a rider from SA. I don't know what shape Yolande is in' date=' but she could also be an asset. So what about Arien Torsius? She spent half the season overseas as well? To be honest, I'd rather put Arien or even an under aged Cherise in Ronel's place. She has NEVER had any overseas results and is overrated. She has proved in the past to not be a climber. And why is Malcolm not making a fuss about not going? Because he is realistic. SA's does'nt mean anything, oh errr uhmm and the funrides in the Cape. According to the fuss on the web it is about the funrides here in Joburg. Who has been winning the "funrides" in any case in the last month?

I rest my case...    

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Someone is posting to become a domestique, try your hand at self enrichment at least you'll have a finger for each working day of the week

[Witrot]

Marissa van der Merwe is the only rider that would get my approval as a rider from SA. I don't know what shape Yolande is in' date=' but she could also be an asset. So what about Arien Torsius? She spent half the season overseas as well? To be honest, I'd rather put Arien or even an under aged Cherise in Ronel's place. She has NEVER had any overseas results and is overrated. She has proved in the past to not be a climber. And why is Malcolm not making a fuss about not going? Because he is realistic. SA's does'nt mean anything, oh errr uhmm and the funrides in the Cape. According to the fuss on the web it is about the funrides here in Joburg. Who has been winning the "funrides" in any case in the last month?

I rest my case...    

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In some way i do agree to you. For the most not. On Ronel, she did performed the best this year of all the ladies in SA. Marissa was also very good as always. At the end you need to send the most riders you can but the best of course. That one rider that is on form just might have some luck and do the trick.

 

Then on Arien and Yolandi overseas. They both performed well, sometimes with very bad luck of crashes and flats. Yolandi did got a top 3 sumwhere, can't remember the race now. But both put in very good performances in some races. Unfortunatly both was sick at SA's, allthough Arien still rode. She went smiling over the climes untill her sickness tired her out on the last laps. Sure both are on a form thats able to maintain the hard racing of what you get in Europe. Why then not select them both as the are hard workers and team mates.

 

With this team. Who is working for who. Anriette doesn't know how to work for someone and she is not in condition. Going to very interesting on what the excuses going to be this year!!

Good luck for Yolandi and Marissa, go kick ass

[Chunky]

While I agree with Csiad that winning an SA championship means absolutely nothing, it is however the event that has been 'earmarked' as the race to win to gain selection.

 

Proving yourself at your national championships is normaly the way in which a rider can prove to everyone within his federation that he or she is the best that the country has to offer. It is not that riders fault if the standard is very low. At the end of the day, he still beat all the other riders who were hoping to do the same thing.

 

Transparancy is the problem at the CSA. When emotion takes over from reason, the worms start to crawl out of the woodwork. The problem we have, is that our sport is being run mostly by people who have no clue about proffesional or competitive cycling (Dave and Lawrance). Another problem we have is the fact that they do not want or need any help from anyone else.

 

Cycling needs a complete new face. It needs experienced and qualified business people who can turn it into a profitable organisation to run the administration and logistics side of things. It also needs people who understand how cycling at that level works. I had a long chat with Carinus the other day egarding this issue. I told him it must be very difficult to have to work with people who dont understand cycling and his silence answered my question exactly.

 

Cycling in South Africa will remain a total mess like it has been for the past however many years untill you rid the sport of these idiots.

 

We always seem to get the same answer when this statement gets made....' Well, you voted for us'.

 

Who actually voted. How many people actually put there hands up when these people were elected into their currenty positions. Sure, we are partly to blame for not showing up and putting our hands in the air for pewople we actually want to see run our sport. I for one have been to a few of these gatherings of potential administrators. The problem is that nobody actually wants the job. Its an organisation in total dissaray. I think most people actually think to themselves why even bother, you never going to change the system anyway.

 

South Africa will unfortunately only ever produce a very limited number of Robert Hunters or Cherise Taylors and the system will kill most of them off anyway.

[Witrot]

And for those saying we have issues on fighting on the womans teams on not so much on the men.

Well, thats very easy, the team is good and so are numurous riders not in the team!! Like the example of Hanco and Nolan. Both are good, so there is not much of a issue.

 

The ladies on the other hand. The gap between good and average is huge. There is barely a good handfull and then they pick some that almost forgot how to race!!

[buckstopper]

If winning SA's means nothing howcome there were about 1000 entries in Bloem, where competitors peaked for and rode their hearts out (Cherise, Ronel, Malcolm, David G, Arran, and many age cat riders including Mclean gave it all). It meant something to them.

 

At least CSA (Lawrence) is writing newsletters communicating intentions. If they don't deliver the egg will be on his face. What did the old guard ever tell us?