rock Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 just been thinking, what would be the cheapest/most cost effective way to build up say a 9 kg hardtail? no name carbon frame??AC wheesl??SID race??X9 group??KCNC parts kit?? any ideas??
pablo Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I have a orbea alma carbon frameAmerican classic wheelsetSid race forkX0 groupRitchey carbon parts and kcncHope brakes.Look pedals9.6 KGYou'll have to get a lighter wheelset, fork and brakes. Depends on what tyres you have as well.What's your budget?
Dicky DQ Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Ali Frames are normally lighter and cheaper than carbon and last longer.
kosmonooit Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 You could just get a Cannondale Flash 7.24Kg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKL3zDEcmfM DIPSLICK, nickc and Slanghoek Louis 3
Palaeodom Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Second hand scott scaleSid RaceAC wheelsetX9 with Noir Crank no seat post or saddle, clamp or rear brake and just stand the whole time and use the front brake
MattyG Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 You could just get a Cannondale Flash 7.24Kg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKL3zDEcmfMand that falls into cost effective how again? dev null 1
kosmonooit Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Where there's a will there is a way ....
gravel_fodder Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 just been thinking, what would be the cheapest/most cost effective way to build up say a 9 kg hardtail? no name carbon frame??AC wheesl??SID race??X9 group??KCNC parts kit?? any ideas?? hey rock, whats the purpose? also are u starting from scratch? some ideas: going for a single chainring - loose 2 rings, FD, and shifter for freerim brakes instead of discs are probably lighter per $$$$ but then you need specific wheels and prob loose some style pointsthen non-tubeless tyres as tubeless is probably the easiest way to shed that last 500g, plus they cheaper than UST but not as tough ultimately it all comes down to what you want to do
Unicycle Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Volcan XC Pro through buycycle.co.za. It ia a 1 kg frame for R8000 and they quoted me with X.9 build kit, Sid and American Classic wheels for R21 000. Super bike for the price!
rock Posted February 15, 2011 Author Posted February 15, 2011 I'd been keen to see what the actual weight is for that Volcan........sounds very light for the money....
Wernervdmerwe Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Ali Frames are normally lighter and cheaper than carbon and last longer. What do you base that on? I'll agree they are cheaper, but the other two I am interested to hear what you based that claim on. I have heard that carbon lasts longer, which is why some aircraft incorporate that rather than the cheaper Alu to save long-term cost and fatigue as carbon does not fatigue the same way Alu does.Also carbon is definitely lighter than Alu frames - unless you compare a superlight Alu XC to say a DH carbon bike?
vanniri Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 You could just get a Cannondale Flash 7.24Kg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKL3zDEcmfM Real-world tyres adds circa 400 grams + pedals = tadd below 8kg Awesome hardtail - not the cheapest
pablo Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 ja, I don't think alu is lighter than carbon hey. if it is, then why are the lightest bikes of carbon??The hope brakes I bought for about R3500. I know that is alot, but I don't think Ill ever buy another brake except hope. THeir great. Had them for over a year now. Never had to bleed them or adjust the caliper too much. Also the rotors don't bend.The amount of money you are willing to spend will ultimately dictate the weight of your bike.
Edge_Design Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 9kg is going to be expensive, sub 10kg can be done on a budget... The build you mentioned is probably the cheapest with modern parts, alternatively go older SID with v-brakes unless you're looking at new parts only? Biggest change will be lightweight tyres which make a huge difference...
Dicky DQ Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 What do you base that on? I'll agree they are cheaper, but the other two I am interested to hear what you based that claim on. I have heard that carbon lasts longer, which is why some aircraft incorporate that rather than the cheaper Alu to save long-term cost and fatigue as carbon does not fatigue the same way Alu does.Also carbon is definitely lighter than Alu frames - unless you compare a superlight Alu XC to say a DH carbon bike? Yes Carbon Should last longer, however get a sharp impact from stone, fall etc. and it will be toast sooner than later. Ali will get a ding or a scratch that is all. Get a chip in Carbon and start considering replacement. OK if you are gonna pussyfoot around on single tracks then go carbon. I have had both. Mongoose Team ali frame with all done 900g lighter than the Mereda Team all done. Mongoose had to be replaced as I reversed my suv over it. Was still going strong after more than 2 years of heavy riding. Then got the Merida, had to have the frame replaced x3. (Ok all done under warranty. Merida is AWSOME!!!!!) but if you paying for everything...... Top end Ali frames are lighter than Carbon. just go to any of the manufacturer's sites and check it out.
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