Tumbleweed Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 So guilty until proven innocent? Even though reasonable doubt? It is not impossible that it could have been contaminated meat ie possible.. Was it proven that it was impossible? Weighing up the merits of the case (from a distance), the issues is not clear cut thats why it took so long. Then there was political interference. Maybe that's it: its more of a political issue. Politics in terms of power. UCI power. They certainly are on a power trip up there. Remember, not all of the delays were the fault of the UCI. I recall at least two delays that were at the request of Contador's legal team.
Tumbleweed Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Also, the UCI has no power over this. They put doping issues in the hands of the national federations and the CAS. The were certainly vocal about the issue, but I don't think they exerted any political pull over it.
SwissVan Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 So guilty until proven innocent? Even though reasonable doubt? It is not impossible that it could have been contaminated meat ie possible.. Was it proven that it was impossible? Yep He tested positive and he needed to prove his innocence.So he blamed it on the meat, considering where he got the meat from he would have done better to say someone spiked his food / drink.....
TNT1 Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) http://www.iol.co.za/logger/p.gif?a=1.1229840&d=/2.225/2.228/2.261 Guardiola urges Contador to fight ban February 8 2012 at 01:02pmComment on this story http://www.iol.co.za/polopoly_fs/iol-spt-feb8-al-cheaterdor-1.1229839%21/image/1141329953.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_300/1141329953.jpgAPBarcelona coach Pep Guardiola, who successfully fought a doping case while a player in Italy, has urged Spanish cyclist Alberto Contador to fight his two-year doping ban.Madrid – Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola, who successfully fought a doping case while a player in Italy, has urged Spanish cyclist Alberto Contador to fight his two-year doping ban “until the end of the world”.“In these situations, and I speak a bit from personal experience, there is only one person who knows what happened, that is him,” Guardiola said in comments replayed in Spanish media Wednesday.“And if he knows that he really is innocent as he says publicly and privately, he should defend himself until the end of the world and for as long as it takes. The truth always comes out in the end.”Guardiola was speaking at a press conference on the eve of Barcelona's King's Cup semi-final second leg against Valencia on Wednesday and his comments were published in sports dailies including Mundo Deportivo.The Catalan coach was banned for four months after he tested positive for nandrolone in 2001 while playing for Italy's Brescia but he was cleared by a criminal court on appeal in October 2007.The Switzerland-based Court of Arbitration for Sport banned Contador on Monday for two years following a positive test for the banned substance clenbuterol.Contador on Tuesday said his lawyers were looking into a possible appeal, which must be lodged within 30 days. He argues he is the victim of a contaminated steak eaten during the 2010 Tour de France“My lawyers are looking into all the possibilities. We will continue to fight until the end,” he told a packed news conference in his hometown of Pinto just south of Madrid.Backdated to August 2010, when he announced the news of his positive test weeks after his third yellow jersey triumph, the ban means Contador can return to competition on August 6, 2012.As well as ruling him out of this year's Tour de France and the Olympic Games in London, he will be stripped of several wins including his 2010 yellow jersey which will now be handed to runner-up Andy Schleck of Luxembourg. – Sapa-AFP Edited February 8, 2012 by TNT1
TNT1 Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Professor goes on hunger strike for Contador 74-year-old says he will not eat until “unjust” sanction is overturned
fandacious Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Yep He tested positive and he needed to prove his innocence.So he blamed it on the meat, considering where he got the meat from he would have done better to say someone spiked his food / drink..... hmm... so ulrich is innocent then - he's never tested positive... and there are others who where asked for a TUE and emphatically stated they did not have one. then when the positive test arrived the produced one. Urine samples taken from when EPO wasnt on the banned substance list which tested positive?
fandacious Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Professor goes on hunger strike for Contador 74-year-old says he will not eat until “unjust” sanction is overturned wait - he really thinks contador won the tDF with nothing but fresh mineral water and apples?
fandacious Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Which begs the question, what should be illegal and what should not be. wasnt caffeine on the list a while ago?
TNT1 Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 wait - he really thinks contador won the tDF with nothing but fresh mineral water and apples? Dunno. He sounds like a cracker. What's "ethology" anyway?
TNT1 Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 hmm... so ulrich is innocent then - he's never tested positive... Ping Mr 60%
fandacious Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Ping Mr 60% cheese and fkn rice bob... +20k posts?
Wyatt Earp Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Professor goes on hunger strike for Contador 74-year-old says he will not eat until “unjust” sanction is overturnedHe only has a max of 15 years left, I say let him out if his misery .
MTB_Roadie Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Professor goes on hunger strike for Contador 74-year-old says he will not eat until “unjust” sanction is overturned Lol! There is billions of people in the world....he surely wont be missed...
fandacious Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I still remeber Ullrich in 1997 when he dropped Pantani and virenque going up to Andorra. How could he be innocent. Was awesome to watch. or like vino in 2007(?) who couldnt hang onto the frikkin lantern rouge one day and then won the individual TT the next day....at least vino tested positive. ulrich never once tested positive for PEDS. also, if passing pantani on a climb means you're doping, then theres a few other names who should be mentioned as well
GrumpyOldGuy Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Ping Mr 60% I liked Ulrich, he was human, he ate too many pies, got fat, smoked a bit of pot, got bust, drank too many beers and partied a bit too much - we all did it, we just expected him to live like a saint. He was still a damn fine athlete though, his ride in the 003 tour was the stuff of dreams, - I still claim he should have put the hammer down when LA and Mayo got tangled up, he wasn't there to win friends and he most likely would have put sufficient time into LA to win comfortably...........but water under the bridge, busybody Hamilton racing around with a broken collar bone like it was a headache and high on amphetamines to feed his unborn twin, told him to wait and to his regret he did. I would like to read his life story one day, the true Jan, I think that would be an incredible read and put a lot of the myths out there to bed.
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