Contador - CAS ruling. (All things Contador/doping - merged)

[kosmonooit]

There must have been a reason they escalated that blood test to a lab that would find those minuscule quantities, perhaps something to do with the biological passport?

 

The only people harping on about plasticisers are the eggspurts on the interweb

[Niner]

How does AC "know" it came from a steak?

[kosmonooit]

If its microscopic particles why cant they enter the blood via the stomach etc - after all that's how tablets/medicines/drugs work.

 

There is also the Anus route but that's getting a bit anal.

Edited February 9, 2012 by kosmonooit

[Kranswurm]

Plasticizers found in blood or urine will have come from a IV bag and not a water bottle because when you eat or drink from something stored in plastic it goes through the digestive system and should not leak into the bloodstream. They probably also look for medical grade plasticizers that hold blood.

 

Thats the point.

Heaps of chemicals which we ingest end up in our blood stream.That's how drugs work

[TNT1]

How does AC "know" it came from a steak?

 

Maybe he used Occam's Razor, and arrived at the inevitable?

 

"When you eliminate the impossible, then whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

[kosmonooit]

So I guess there wont be any takers for a local support ride?

 

Contador’s fans to ride in his support

[kosmonooit]

Surely its molecules of the polymers that are picked up in the blood as 'plastisers' as such - that's a 'chemical' anyway ,I think this sub-topic needs further reading and gathering of facts.

[Lucky Luke.]

There must have been a reason they escalated that blood test to a lab that would find those minuscule quantities, perhaps something to do with the biological passport?

 

The only people harping on about plasticisers are the eggspurts on the interweb

 

Because long before the presence of plasticisers was announced the only likely reason for the presence of clenbuterol all of a sudden in the middle of the tour was a blood transfusion.

[Niner]

Maybe he used Occam's Razor, and arrived at the inevitable?

 

"When you eliminate the impossible, then whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

lol

[SwissVan]

How does AC "know" it came from a steak?

 

Dude AC knows exactly where the steak came from, the blerry butcher who supplied it even had to give evidence to the CAS.

On anudder note Darren....

Wonder why AC’s crew (cook) went to all the hassle of obtaining his steak from Spain while he was busy racing around France?

The cook claims that the meat in France is not the same and that he knew someone who was coming to the race from Spain and asked him to bring some steak. The steak came from a village near Burgos in NE Spain, AC was in Pau France at the time which according to Google is 372 km away or a 3 Hr 49 minute journey.

 

Surely a team like Astana had means and resources to get a decent steak somewhere closer to where he was at the time?

 

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/astana-have-receipt-for-contadors-steak-says-cook

[Kranswurm]

Medication is designed to enter the Stomach, Plastics are not . Chemicals I agree will enter the bloodstream. As i said they must have a test for the type of Plasticizers used in blood doping

 

Plasticizers ar not plastic but chemicals added to the plastic or pvc to make them soft.

 

IE New car smell is the leaching out of the chemicals from a new car

[TNT1]

IE New car smell is the leaching out of the chemicals from a new car

 

Mostly the glue used on the upholstery.

[Kranswurm]

Dude AC knows exactly where the steak came from, the blerry butcher who supplied it even had to give evidence to the CAS.

On anudder note Darren....

Wonder why AC’s crew (cook) went to all the hassle of obtaining his steak from Spain while he was busy racing around France?

The cook claims that the meat in France is not the same and that he knew someone who was coming to the race from Spain and asked him to bring some steak. The steak came from a village near Burgos in NE Spain, AC was in Pau France at the time which according to Google is 372 km away or a 3 Hr 49 minute journey.

 

Surely a team like Astana had means and resources to get a decent steak somewhere closer to where he was at the time?

 

http://www.cyclingne...steak-says-cook

 

I know some people who would kill for a Botswana fillet

[TNT1]

I know most hubbers would lick the ground Cancellara walks on, so here you go:

 

Swiss rider slams CAS and says fear factor has increased amongst the peloton.

 

Swiss rider Fabian Cancellara has branded the process involved in ascertaining Contador’s culpability as “crazy”.

 

He then cited Contador’s attention to detail and the amount that he has stood to lose as an argument against the possibility that he risked everything on a contaminated supplement.

“Now they are saying that it wasn’t even the food, it was a supplement. It is hard to believe that Alberto would take a supplement without having it tested. You get offered them everywhere but you say ‘ok’ and send them to the lab. For a cyclist, this is your insurance.

“Alberto has so many people behind him: teammates, coaches, friends, family, sponsors and the money that comes with it all. To throw away all that in a split second on one pill seems crazy. I always think this way myself - about what I have to lose.

 

Look, me personally, I am not a fan of Candelabra, but he seems like a level headed bloke, and one whose comments I'd give some attention to.

[TNT1]

I know some people who would kill for a Botswana fillet

 

Agreed. When you want what you want, that's all that you want.

[capedutch]

I DON'T AGREE THAT AC MIGHT BE ALLOWED TO RACE AFTER AUGUST! HE MUST FACE THE MUSIC AND START WITH HIS TWO YEAR BAN APART FROM THE FACT THAT I THINK HE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE!