Danger Dassie

How did you achieve this!?

You know what, everyone needs to grow the **** up. Everyday I see motorists driving down sidewalks or the wrong side of the road, skipping stop streets, cutting in from the wrong lane etc .... It's doesn't take a bicycle, motorcycle, car etc .. to make a person an asshole on the road. Seriously, this is a pointless debate, because no-one has the common decency to concede to one another. We point fingers rather.

I'm ok with them, been using the USN Vooma gels in those toothpaste tubes. Convenient, non messy and I find that they're generally good for 2/3 races. Depending on how much I'm kakking off!

Oh absolutely, and employees do take one hell of an advantage. I do feel that overall though, SA companies have a distinctly different approach which is not one of viewing the workforce as assets but rather as overheads. Which in my own opinion, is a contributing factor the lack of skills in the country. Thats one of the reasons I opted for a voluntary package.

Much like me in the morning before I get coffee.

I worked at fairly large local company for nearly 12 years and can identify with much of what Covie says, the same with internationals here that source locals to direct the companies. May well be a generalisation, and there are good ones out there, but my experience is pretty much the same as Covie's. One example, after years of keeping dilapidated furniture and equipment the workforce were promised that would change. Unfortunately this started with a top down approach and barely filtered to the mid and lower areas, especially the workshop floor. Which in my opinion on served to entrench the mistrust of management and low moral. Also, 3 consecutive retrenchments (sorry "right sizing") compounded the problems above not to mention loss of skills.

Peter Place, on Peter Rd. Actually Mobile Bike Tec is also based in Fourways.

Complete Cyclist in Bryanston.

Could also be a matter of not getting enough electrolytes in your system. Peanut butter saam wont help there.

Service .... Johan Borman should be your man.

One of the most objective articles I've read on the matter. http://www.health24.com/fitness/FitnessDoc_articles/16-4596,60723.asp

Speak to Sean/Joanne at Tread, they have been hosting the Tread Skills Clinic with some success. They're in Jhb, Pta, PE and CT as far as I know. http://www.treadmag.co.za/DisplayCustomLink.aspx?name=SKILLS http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63716066791&ref=ts

It doesn't affect the frame, just the BB. Which is for the most part a consumable wear and tear item. No warranty claim.

+1 Wondered about that UCI thing, saw a frame in Complete Cyclist with it on. One of the Medscheme TT bikes.

Jose Hermida Dan Hugo Conrad Stoltz Burry Stander Andrew Neethling John Tomac Nic White Philippe Perakis

Over 21 years, I've personally experienced it, I know others who have experienced it, plus I've personally worked on and seen bikes in workshops with it. I think it depends largely on the climate and the riding a person does, for myself I don't lose sleep over the issue. I'm just commenting/contributing to the topic, no worry at all. Like MAD said "What, me worry"

How so? Ride through a spruit and the water will enter the BB anyway, via the seatpost and pool in the BB shell entering the chainstays after all. Unless the BB cups run the full length of threads. Stays slope towards the BB shell, so water could in fact drain towards the BB shell, remaining moisture would in most instances evaporate in a dry environment. One thing is for sure, with no hole, water has no where to go and will just pool around the BB. Which can prove a costly exercise. As one example amongst a number of manufactures who do the same. Ghost bikes spec drainage holes in their frames, they are based in Germany where some of the muddiest wettest riding can be found. Even with a drainage hole in the BB it would be (arguably) advisable after a very wet ride to remove the seatpost to aid evaporation. BB holes may not be the best solution, but it's the most workable and not really related to frame design which relate to handling more than anything. Any frame will pretty much have the BB at the lowest relative point to the rest of the frame. Turning a bike over for drainage by the seat tube has to be the most awkward solution I can think of. For one, the bike is now resting on the seat and the handlebars, for another the water could also make it's way down the down tube towards the steerer and head set. Personally I have never experienced any BB or frame damage from having a hole in the BB, from not having one on the other hand, the experience has been different. I honestly don't think it has anything to do with manufacturers weighing up the technical merits, but rather reducing lead time in manufacturing. Especially given the increased demand from the popular growth of the sport.

I ride a 29er with 26er training wheels..... Sometimes the other way round.

I like a tweet Andrew McClean made about it, essentially only allow race radios if viewers can listen in........ berry cool idea I reckon.

Yep, thats why a lot of models are specced with super flimsy tyres and tubes, keep the advertised spec weight down.

Yes theres a reason, production turn around. Yet fortunately there are manufactures who do still spec those holes, engineers of equally high caliber.

Don't know what ZBH you're on about, have ridden that on an XC hardtail and a Scalpel, with clipless.

If you're worried about it, speak to Johan Bornman. All frames should have a 5mm drainage hole on the bottom of the bb. Ghost and the Momsen frames have them, to name a few....

Energade were a sponsor last year (MTN/Energade) ... If neither appears on the sponsor page it could be down to whatever is contracted in the sponsorship agreement. Either way, I'm feeling keen to ride some mountains, instead of molehills