32GI

[MDW]

By the way the birdie was right we are going to be launching a leadin edge race fuel for those that are keeping the threshold at max ;-) stay tuned

[MDW]

I've been using 32GI since Dec. with mixed results . Problem is that I, and many of the other users I see here are evaluating this drink, while using other 'fast' sugars, Coke ,Jungle bars etc with the product.

 

The article in Ride magazine says that you basically use your stored energy when you are on the low GI stuff ,and not the product.And the best pre race meal? ALL BRAN FLAKES!

Latest Bicycling mag features Darren Lill, SA Road champ. Says he rides on COKE and water.So does an ex champ road athlete friend. And he rides respectable times.Any thougts?

Just thought I would respond to some stuff here, as interesting debates going on :

 

I am very familiar with the research done on the pre-race meal in the UK, where you should all know that it compares Cornflakes to Bran as a pre-race meal, high GI to low GI, BUT, is all bran the best pre-race meal. Come on guys you know its not there are much better low GI options out there than Bran flakes. The issues most endurance athletes have with bran is its not as sustainable as the other low GI cereals such as Future Life, Raw Oats, Pro-Nutro, even low GI seed loaf to say but a few. Secondly Bran is high in fibre, so i mean honestly how many of us want to really be running to the loo before the event and still needing it by the event, its shown Bran also causes bowel movements. I have tried it before, just does not do it for me and I get a lot of feedback from my clients saying the same. So far from what I can see in the market is that the few other options mentioned above seem to be much more highly rated.

 

OK, so now my awaited response to the Birmingham research report, which by the way we were intimately familiar with before we launched 32Gi. A few things you should take note of, what was portrayed in the article is only a fraction of what the report displayed and secondly the Ride Article focussed on certain areas of the report, let me say this any researcher that says "I am sceptical" has already put themselves into whats deemed to be the biased zone in the industry. We are extremely excited for them to do research on our product as long as the conditions layed down for testing are correct. However the author expressed her scepticism from the onset which to me means a bias.

Which is why I will refer back to the Birmingham report now.

Firstly the testing period was done only over 2.5 hours, so I can tell you now that if you take isomaltulose DURING an event of that time, of course the entire product will not be oxidized, it digests at a much slower rate than its counterpart, if you read the research report properly you will notice that the entire sucrose portion is taken up, isomaltulose breaks down into the required elements and this eventually gets converted and used. However it is over a long period of time. So if they had tested the rides over a 3.5-4 hour period they would have got a complete digestion of the product. We know from the research done overseas, isomaltulose is completely digested and absorbed by the system. Secondly why do you feel so great after an event when using 32Gi, its because its also been proven that isomaltulose improves post exercise glycemia by reducing CHO oxidization. I can send you this research report.

Does the Ride report tell you when the isomaltulose was taken in? the answer is no.

The fact is that it needs to start being taken before the event so its already in the system and providing you a steady stream.

OK, another fact, what intensity were the athletes riding at?

Quite a high intensity. Its a fact that when riding at a very high intensity for a long period of time, you cannot engage lipolysis and you need a higher GI feed, but we know this, and we have stipulated this from the beginning. That is why we have the 32Gi chews on the market, they have a very good feed to the system, and work wonders when coming into an event when intensity is a lot higher.

As I explained to some of you before, 2.5 hour ride, for me is not a long ride at all, even if the intensity is slightly higher. A great pre-meal breakfast, a bottle of 32Gi or 2 and a packet of chews or 2 at the most, will easily see me through this at race intensity, and at a balanced energy level. If I go on a training ride, a decent pre-training meal and ONLY water would see me through.

So the point I am making is that when you are going to be pushing yourself to the limit for an extended period of time, you will need to take in more calories, more than the drink can provide you, and that means, additional energy sources, the ADVANTAGE of the 32Gi is that it will still act as an energy stabiliser bringing down the peaks slower which occur when say taking a gel with it.

From the onset we deemed 32Gi to be an excellent endurance product, and why, in an endurance event you pace yourself, you dont go at max heart rate and hold it, you are going below threshold and are able to use your fat stores significantly.

Other research such as the Freiburg University Report did something different, they consumed the isomaltulose a fair amount of time before doing a time trial :-). Guess what they performed far better than their Maltodextrin counterparts and recovery much quicker over a 90 minute time trial, sub maximal threshold.

We have always stated and I still hold ground, that as a base carb drink its excellent, in a high intensity race you might want a little more, so then take it in with it, it will provide you an excellent stabilizing feeling, even if you pop a gel towards the finish :-).

So, as mentioned we are launching a new product soon, which will be based on fast feed and slow tapering, will keep you posted and I think you will all be quite impressed with it ;-). We have a test bed now of 100 professional athletes using our existing products, drink and chews and they are performing phenomenally well.

At Ironman this past weekend, we took 5 division wins :-), and 7 slots to Hawaii. mmmm, how can you be sceptical with results like that, I mean those are people feeding themselves constantly on the drink and chews for 9 hours upwards. We have really had good results, the past few months, the DC was one event where over a very long period of time, our users reported excellent feedback and again we had good results. We continue to develop more products based on our philosophy of balanced energy, energy to keep you going, stay tuned :-)

[Blokman]

Thanks MDW I'm taking note.And as far as all bran goes.What I was thinking,I don't know.I'll just stick to pro nutro and my peanut butter sandwich.I suppose we are all looking for the magic bullet.And every manufacturer has his own unique edge to punt products.Alpha this Beta that, low gi, high gi.Peptides which you just plonk into a drink, that somebody else spent years perfecting.etc etc.

Won,t make drastic changes so the Wilro is on 32GI

[MDW]

Anyone doing the Tulbagh, MTN Nissan Series this weekend come and chat to us we are sponsoring the event, and would be great to meet some of you - Team 32Gi

[MDW]

http://www.youtube.com/user/32GiEnergy?feature=mhum

[MDW]

I did some blood glucose testing on the 32Gi chews, which will show you the stability.

 

So basically I did this:

Oats breakfast, with future life in it, honey, yoghurt, almonds,half apple, nice pre-race meal :-)

1:30 later did a blood glucose test blood glucose sat at 5.4

I then ate 4 packets of 32Gi chews right after each other, yes I know ill feeling from overload, BUT

then took my blood glucose levels +-25minutes after, and blood glucose went to 6.2 it stayed stable for 90minutes and then went back to 5.4 after.

Really shows stability and balanced release.

 

Check it out on You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/user/32GiEnergy#p/a/u/1/6nN2GVlPGqU

['Dale]

32gi team,

 

Thanx for the clear reporting on the value of your products.

 

Good stuff!!

[swartpiet]

Ive used 32GI for 8 months now and very happy with it. With th Magalies Monster 75km I did something stupid. I thought I would try out something else and its something I havent used while doing any of my training. Dont want to mention what it was. 42km into the race just a few km's after the monster climb I bonked. Like in a total bonk. There was nothing left in me. I had to concentrate not to fall side ways off my bike. And tho cap it all, that morning I also deviated from my normal breakfast meal. Yes, I tried out All Bran, after I read the article in Ride mag. That was another major mistake.

 

On on the last 10km after I ate 2 bananas and drank 3 cups of coke (thats all that was available at the waterpoint) I felt better and could finish ok. I think this whole experiment cost me at least 15-20min in the race.

 

Never again. Im back on Oats/Muesli and a banana for breakfaste, wooies high protein bar 30mins before the race together with a 3 scoop 32GI mix 30mins before race. During the race I eat 2 bananas and drink 2 servings of 32GI.

 

My avg HR at Magalies Monster was 181(89%) and I felt I was close to dying. My last race a Babbas I raced at 186(91.6) avg HR and felt strong right through. With the Babbas race I was back on my normal pre and durig race meal plan as mentioned above.

 

So, 32GI rocks, and if used in conjunction with the right pre race meal plan its even better. Wont use anything else.

 

Thats my 5 cents.

[MDW]

Swartpiet thanks for that, I have mentioned to people who spoke to me about the ride magazine article, that the breakfast mentioned was NOT good at all. They compared Bran to the likes of Cornflakes etc and of course it comes out better, but to be honest there are far better options out there, bran is too short lived and high in fibre causing gastric issues.

The sports scientist that wrote the article I feel pushed people in the wrong direction and insinuated things which were not 100%, I actually tried contacting her to discuss. Also she has specialised in womens menstruation and effect on sports performance, I dont thing nutrition is her strong point. We only learn the hard way I guess.

[MDW]

For those that did read the ride magazine article, I was given the opportunity to respond in another publication and here is my article in response, for those that are interested:

32GI ARTICLE.pdf

[Thug]

I've been using 32GI for months now and ran my fastest 10km time in 6 years at yesterday's SA Duathlon Champs........fuelled by 32GI.

[I-FELT-the-FORCE]

MDW Quick one....

Been an avid 32gi user since last year, but leaving our shores shortly. You must be on the know about any products that would work ont he same level as your product in the UK. Please share with me if you dont mind (PM me). Alternatively, if I am able to secure a source for 32gi in the UK, that would be the best result

[no calves]

is the chews texture suppose to be like SAND COVERED SNOT??? not ranting as i am an avid 32gi user, i was just wondering...

[udxcob]

Thats exactly what they are and they work

 

[MDW]

is the chews texture suppose to be like SAND COVERED SNOT??? not ranting as i am an avid 32gi user, i was just wondering...

The chews texture is a little granular on the outside like a sugar coating and soft on the inside, I hope this helps we have made a change recently which we are testing which will hopefully take away the granularity on the outside.

 

later

Me

[MDW]

32Gi Neutral tested by Go-Multi - http://yfrog.com/kip56jnj